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GrInDi
Aug 2002

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TDX Rules,DVD Rules, VCD Rules

Hi,

i see all the releases nuked because they are non compliant with certain rules, ie xvid is the TDX rules,etc,etc can someone please post the rules please for DVD and SVCD, VCD this is only for home use and not for releasing shit. Flame away

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Neversoft
May 2002


Admin?

This isn't a bad idea - it'll stop a few people from asking about the various formats and nuke reasons. I might even sticky the bugger!

Could somebody do the honours?

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Mother
Aug 2003


Bitter, miserable twat.

If you're not releasing and just want a set of quality recommendations for your own rips, you don't need to know the rules for packaging, labeling, dupes/propers, etc.

Here's a summary therefore of the most important things you should try to follow:

SVCD DVD rips
- Length: no more than 55 minutes per CD.
- Max. video bitrate 2450kbps.
- Min. average video bitrate 1700kbps for widescreen releases or 1900kbps for full screen releases.
- Use VBR 2-pass or higher.
- Min. audio bitrate 192kbps, maximum 224kbps.

DivX DVD rips
- Length: PAL (25 fps) 105 minutes/CD
FILM (23.976 fps) 110 minutes/CD
NTSC (29.97 fps) 92 minutes/CD
- Audio VBR MP3 or AC3
- Codec DivX 3.11 or XviD
- Use 2-pass encoding
- Resolution: width 512 - 640 pixels and must be a multiple of 16
height must be a multiple of 16
black bars must be cropped

DVDR DVD rips
- must be at least 4.15 Gb unless source is dvd5
- CCE must be used for all re-encoded streams
- Min. bitrate 3000 kbps
- 100 minutes or below min. 4 pass, over 100 minutes min. 5 pass
- Keep menus, English audio (original audio if non-English) and subtitles in three of the most common languages
- Macrovision must be removed
- Must be region free

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horizonstar
Dec 2002


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Thanks, Mother. That's a very nice practical summary. I have a couple questions ...

1. What VBR settings for LAME would you recommend?
(a) --preset standard
(b) --preset extreme
(c) -V 0
(d) something else

2. Is 2-pass really good enough for DivX/XviD? Even for vids with lots of motion?

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Mother
Aug 2003


Bitter, miserable twat.

1. Scene rules recommend --r3mix, but that is now outdated. I think the equivalent is -V3 --vbr-new.

2. Yes. (To be honest, I wasn't aware you could do more than 2 passes with XviD anyway.)

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mach
Mar 2004

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If you want a set of standards for creating quality mp3's, I'd suggest following the uberstandard: http://www.ubernet.org/

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DJPop
May 2005

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Is is necessary to crop the black bars from widescreen releases using Xvid?

I prefer the widescreen versions, with the black bars.

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DJPop
May 2005

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Is it necessary to crop the black bars on xvid releases?

I actually prefer to have the black bars for the widescreen movies.

I been trying to release xvid rips of old dvd's, as an internal group, but I can't seem to get any movie, anywhere.

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Kid Hash
Jan 2003

Junior Member

It seems no-ones uploaded scene rules yet

Here's DVDR, SVCD, Xvid and MVid rules, all zipped up

Attachment: scene.standards.zip
This has been downloaded 1483 time(s).

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Kid Hash
Jan 2003

Junior Member

DVDR 2005 Rules. And it wouldn't hurt if one of the 112 people that has downloaded the rules so far had said thanks.

Attachment: tdrs2k5.zip
This has been downloaded 899 time(s).

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pHo
Oct 2001


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i love it how people who make rulesets think people will actually listen.

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FrightfoO
Sep 2003

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--alt-preset standard should be used in all cases. --alt-preset extreme is a waste of bits for no audible quality difference.

DJPop: the actual image is still displayed with large or small black borders depending on whether you've got a widescreen television or not. Black borders are just cropped to prevent them being encoded (wasting bits) and to keep divisibility (of 16)/crop ratio/AR error down.

- frankly what I don't really like is overcropping into the valid video and using Smart Crop All (which keeps the values). I prefer to pixel crop, then choose the appropriate 16 mod compliant resolution, which is closest to the 1.85:1, or 2.35:1 AR etc (i.e. I like to keep all the picture rather than cut parts of it out). Some GordianKnot guides will suggest overcropping even if it means sacrificing some picture. No sir, I prefer it not being done. Don't worry I do see the difference

Thanks for the list Kid Hash

edit - sorry, this is a dopey post. What I prefer now IS to crop out valid, but messed up video (which nearly all DVD's have). This might not actually equal a 2.35 or 1.85 AR in the end, but this doesn't matter. As long as your AR error % is small all's good.

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eminenz
Aug 2005

Newbie

hey kid hash, thankz for posting the rules! everything i always wanted to know, but didn't know i could ask. cheers!

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codmat
Oct 2003

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Thx for the rule sets Kid Hash

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kiemp4
Dec 2005

Newbie

thanx for the rules
now where do i go to begin to understand them.
i dearly want to learn "how to" but it seems that i've missed the first couple of chapters. metaphorically speaking.
BTW hello.

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biocore
Jan 2006

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Anyone got the current TDX rules ?

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happyguu
Feb 2006

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real thanks , kid hash.

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sailorboy
Jun 2003

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Cheers for the Rules. Now to get a camcorder :-p

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JazzMatazz
May 2006

Newbie

thanks a lot kid hash.

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