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souljor
Jun 2005

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widescreen

noob question i know, but can anyone tell me why almost all divx and xvids are ripped as EXTREME widescreen. seriously, when watching on a tv its like 1/3 of the screen with huge black bars at the top and bottom. retail dvd's arent like this :/

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yes they are.

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Nov 2002


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No, what happens is they invent NEW content to put on the side of those divx rips just to irritate you.

Idiot.

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Phantom
Jun 2005


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Re: widescreen

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Originally posted by souljor
retail dvd's arent like this :/


Well actually they are. You must the guy who buys the fullscreen version from Wal Mart.

Time to upgrade to a widescreen TV

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souljor
Jun 2005

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but you cant buy tv's that are as widescreen as the rips put out........ i have never EVER seen a television the shape of a letterbox before....

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Jun 2005

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quote:
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yes they are.



no theyre cropped at top and bottom to make it appear widescreen.

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Jul 2004

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*sigh* Why ask if you won't believe the answer???

There are 16:9 TV's and they are quite popular.

If it's a Re-Encoded TS or TC then yes it may have cropping on the top or bottom.

If it is a DVDRip then that is what aspect ratio the DVD came out in, unless you download a FS (Full Screen) version.

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pHo
Oct 2001


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16x9 = 1.78:1

some movies = 1.85:1 . with overscan this equals no bars.
other movies = 2.35:1 or 2.4:1 , this creates bars.

theaters are wider than tvs, so guess how you keep the correct aspect when you make the dvd?

its not rocket science.

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Nov 2002


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It's possible that you're being really daft and when watching it on your tv, watching it in letterbox format.

So you've got a widescreen release and (say you're using tv out) your computer or dvd player is outputting it as if it's sending the signal to a 4x3 tv. This'll result in a squished image on your widescreen tv and make it look "more widescreen" than normal.

But then surely you'd notice the image is squashed.

But seriously, go buy the retail edition of any of your divx rips and they WILL be the same aspect ratio.

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http://www.imdb.com/Sections/DVDs/AspectRatios/

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Re: widescreen

quote:
Originally posted by souljor
noob question i know, but can anyone tell me why almost all divx and xvids are ripped as EXTREME widescreen. seriously, when watching on a tv its like 1/3 of the screen with huge black bars at the top and bottom. retail dvd's arent like this :/


I suggest u get a HDTV that way u can watch it in High Definition. If that did not answer ur question then this might. Most of the "rips" of "media" contant is done in the aspect ratio of 4:3. If u have gone to a theater in ur whole life u well know what I mean.

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Re: Re: widescreen

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I suggest u get a HDTV that way u can watch it in High Definition. If that did not answer ur question then this might. Most of the "rips" of "media" contant is done in the aspect ratio of 4:3. If u have gone to a theater in ur whole life u well know what I mean.



4:3 ie an aspect ratio that is 3 quarters as high as it is wide ? that isnt the way movies are ripped tho, they are more like 4:1.5 from the ones ive seen, like a letterbox

i watched sin city on a widescreen television at the weekend, and altho the black bars were greatly reduced, there was still about an inch or so at the top and bottom that was unused., what is the point in this ? also, if you buy a widescreen television, how do you stop normal tv from being squashed without cropping the picture ?

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Re: Re: Re: widescreen

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Originally posted by souljor
i watched sin city on a widescreen television at the weekend, and altho the black bars were greatly reduced, there was still about an inch or so at the top and bottom that was unused., what is the point in this ? also, if you buy a widescreen television, how do you stop normal tv from being squashed without cropping the picture ?
Widescreen TV's are only 1.78:1, movies are normally 1.85:1 or 2.35:1 (like pHo said) so naturally some movies still require "padding" at the top and bottom of the screen.

As for watching 4x3 on a widescreen TV - you generally have two options: Vertical bars down the left and right or a "smart" mode which does a stretch/crop (distorts the pic slightly and crops a smidgen off the edges but it's full screen and you quickly get used to it)

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cinema screens are wider than TV screens.

Live with it.

There was a discussion about AR the other day, and i posted the link on IMDB that tells you what AR certain films are in. While your TV may be 16:9, a lot of films will be 21.15:9 - too wide for your TV, resulting in black borders at the top and bottom.

as for "normal tv", your tv should adjust automatically, but if it doesn't, change the AR yourself. there's a magic button.

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as for "normal tv", your tv should adjust automatically, but if it doesn't, change the AR yourself. there's a magic button.


adjusting automatically would cause cropping, correct ? ie, the picture is squashed, so either it can be squeezed in from the left and right and black bars down each side, or stretched vertically and cropped at the top and bottom ??

iam not trying to be awkward by the way, iam just pretty baffled that widescreen is taking off so well when watching normal tv on a widescreen set either makes everybody look like short fat dwarfs or means you lose some picture vertically / have black bars on each side.

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Re: Re: Re: widescreen

quote:
Originally posted by souljor
4:3 ie an aspect ratio that is 3 quarters as high as it is wide ? that isnt the way movies are ripped tho, they are more like 4:1.5 from the ones ive seen, like a letterbox

i watched sin city on a widescreen television at the weekend, and altho the black bars were greatly reduced, there was still about an inch or so at the top and bottom that was unused., what is the point in this ? also, if you buy a widescreen television, how do you stop normal tv from being squashed without cropping the picture ?

thanks



4:3 isn't what most films are ripped at. 4:3 is bog standard old television. And seriously, go buy a DVD, they ARE that wide. The point in this is because it shows the film as it was originally intended to be seen (ie how it is at the cinema). Otherwise you'd be cropping it.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: widescreen

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4:3 isn't what most films are ripped at. 4:3 is bog standard old television. And seriously, go buy a DVD, they ARE that wide. The point in this is because it shows the film as it was originally intended to be seen (ie how it is at the cinema). Otherwise you'd be cropping it.


so movies that you buy which are fullscreen, are cropped then ?

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god damn that sucks.

i need 2 tv's then. a widescreen for movies and a 4:3 for tv. thats gay.




and lame.

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quote:
Originally posted by souljor
adjusting automatically would cause cropping, correct ? ie, the picture is squashed, so either it can be squeezed in from the left and right and black bars down each side, or stretched vertically and cropped at the top and bottom ??

iam not trying to be awkward by the way, iam just pretty baffled that widescreen is taking off so well when watching normal tv on a widescreen set either makes everybody look like short fat dwarfs or means you lose some picture vertically / have black bars on each side.



no, your tv should know the aspect ratio and make it widescreen, or 4:3 or whatever, automatically.

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Neversoft
May 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by souljor
god damn that sucks.

i need 2 tv's then. a widescreen for movies and a 4:3 for tv. thats gay.

Don't worry about it, your entire continent is going to be dragged (kicking and screaming) to the widescreen format for TV as well

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