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CandyMan ,
you will not have that Kenwood very long with 18 speakers hooked to it . Have you heard of an Ohm load ? Do you know that too many speakers will cancel eachother out ? My god man please don't ruin a nice receiver by thinking the more speakers the better [ it most certainly is not ] .
This is not intended as a flame but instead I am trying to help you to not destroy your investment .
I have tested this release on true High Quality gear [ Harmon Kardon - Polk - Cerwin Vega - 1200 watts total ] and the noise some of you speak of does not exist here .
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watched cd1 and the video quality is just as good if not better than any tcf dvd screener like die another day. the audio is kinda low but how hard is it to turn the volume up on your tv?
my only small gripe would be they cut the top and bottom of the pic off a little more... i guess to block out the warnings and stuff but that kind of stuff doesn't bother me really so it would've been nice if they left the whole pic intact... but just about every group does that and its not a that big of a deal to effect the score.

10/9/10

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just finished watchin it and i didnt notice the sound problem at all on my dvd player so that was a bit weird


9/8/9

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old time lurker, first time poster (like many)
finally put in the time to register since it seems nobody else noticed this

the .bin isnt a correct SVCD format.
Telling windvd to play the disc doesnt work.
Well it doesnt for me, anyone else wanna confirm this?
PowerDVD will play the disc in disc mode however, but it sounds crap in PDVD

My sony dav-s300 once ive changed the svcd header information ot non-standard vcd and then burnt it as a vcd it plays perfectly
no distortion in the sound, picture is fabulous
only downside to my svcd-vcd header change is the timestamping is screwed

my non brand cheap generic dvd which plays everything unlike that pos sony cant actually read this as a svcd which is why im "complaining"

id rate the video/audio/movie but everyone else already has so theres not much need
in terms of release tho, im not impressed

anyway thats my 0.02€

(aside from all of that, big up TDi, good rip )

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How often come these subs "for your consideration" ?

THx

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Originally posted by rick420
You people are all idiots. Theres nothing wrong with the sound. Get a real sound system and it sounds great. The sound is a bit low yes, but sound on any real DVD is lower than say your TV sound would be.... "Metallic" my ass.

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glxblt
and anyone else talking about the sound quality

i can confirm there IS a metallic buzz ..its really no problem coz it is very low, and most people dont have good enough sound system to even hear it, or wont even listen carefully enough to hear it. But it IS there 100%.

//jakob

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Originally posted by tonikgin


have you fucking heard this release? i'm not following anyone, i am aggreing with them. and dont talk abotu players or speakers when my SB Audigy Platinum eX and me are both disaggreing with you. There is a fuckign problem with the sound, just the frequency is so high some of yall cant hear it. i dont need a new system, you just need better ears... or someshit.

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a whine? what the fuck are you guys? dogs? i don't hear shit...

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if you can't detect the bad downsample then you are teh deaf. not so audio on crappy tv speakers admittedly, but on good headphones its very clear the audio has been borked. if you dont notice it , good for you, but don't try and look down on the people who have good equipment and good hearing ...

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First of all, props to TDi on releasing this. Second, I'm positively confirming that there is a metallic hiss in the background. Eveyone knows the sound is is low, but when you have to turn it up, the hiss becomes very apparent. I've tested this out both on the computer and several stand alones. I've actually never encountered a DVD or svcd encode that the volume is this low.

Let me throw this out:

Could it be that because TDi was aware of the hiss and lowered the volume on purpose? Considering the timely release of this?


Seems really odd. Anyway, bottom line is that there is a problem with the audio and hopefully there will be a proper of some sort either by TDi or maybe even TCF. Not sure about FLIX's release, anyone check it out yet?

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haha good equipment my ass.. and good headphones? what the hell? yeah... let me sit in my living room, hook up some headphones, watch this beast so i can hear a whine and go to the vcdq forums and bitch.. yeah good idea..

:: well you're bitching anyway...

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BAH, turn up your PCM on the computer, not just crank the speakers up. You crank speakers up = hiss, always. Theres no "annoying" hiss, if anything, its so god damn tiny its not even worth mentioning. You just wanna suck TCFs dick a bit, just like when CTP was around.......Ive watched it, gave it to my boys, etc, and not one person said a god damn thing about the hiss.....

PS - USE LINUX

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Just got hold of this, been ill and spending far too much time in bed lately.

Quality is ace, sound is fine on my dolby 5.1 setup but it could be cos my ears are fucked due to this damn cold I have.

Oh and it also has "Gollums Song" on at the end which I'm glad about cos I never got to hear it at the cinema due to the people next to me wanting to leave!

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If you can't hear it, then you can see it...proof of the visual form now for all you who seem to believe that the audio is prefect

This is taken from the sample, so the majority of people can compare...

Screenshot 1 shows a moment where the mechanical whining is not present. There is no clear high pitched noise.

Screenshot 2 shows a moment where the mechanical whining IS present, and if you see the circled part of the graph...there is a clearly higher pitched noise coming through at a rather loud decibel level...proof, i think so

Screenshot 1 : http://corradouk.tripod.com/proof1.JPG

Screenshot 2 :
http://corradouk.tripod.com/proof2.jpg

(please note, you'll need to copy and paste the url into another window...if someone knows any free servers which allow remote linking, pm me please)

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god damn great release tdi....been waitin on this one

props

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Heh! I have read all the 200 posts so far, and I have to post my two cents' worth of garbage:

1 - Downloaded the 4CDs two days ago. Watched the movie last night.
2 - The sound has been downsampled from the 48 kHz from the DVD to the 44.1 kHz of the SVCD spec.
3 - It maybe be due to the particular stereo / decoding equipment that we use, but some of us hear the metallic whine and some of us don't. I do, and the only new information that I have to impart is that it is very noticeable in two scenes:
a - When Gandalf whistles to call Shadowfax before riding to Rohan.
b - When Treebeard screams after noticing the destruction wrought by the orcs at the fringes of Isengard and Fangorn.

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I feel like such a n00b asking this. But the bin/cue files are 800 megs each... Well the max you can get on a CD is 700 megs (give or take a bit if you overburn)? So how does one burn these to normal CD's? It seems stupid to release bin/cue files for SVCD's if you can't burn them to normal cd's. Why not release them as a single DVDR instead or at least PDVD?

:: 1. question has been asked a million times, mode2 burning supports 800mb. just burn the damn bin/cue onto normal CDRs 2. pdvd is a pressed dvd pirate, what the hell does that have to do with burning?

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Just thought I'd register (finally) to reply to this. I'm not insulting/looking down on/flaming anybody in this post, but I can't hear the hiss, and I've tested this release on a variety of different systems. It's fine on my PC, and the speakers I've got aren't exactly amazing, a pair of Diamond Audio Technology. My standalone DVD and TV seem fine too, no metallic noise/hissing. I tried it on my brothers new Dolby 5.1 system with virtual surround sound enabled, I altered bass/treble and couldn't hear it still, neither could he. I tried it in my cousins, her boyfriend's setup is a bit of a beast, and neither of us could hear a metallic noise. I tried it on his PC too, and it was fine there. Maybe some people CAN hear it, like somebody said, we've all got different setups, but I honestly can't. And I've just turned 17 in case anybody cares, since somebody suggested that younger members of the forum can only hear it, since younger people are able to hear higher frequency noises than older people. And from how most people describe the noise, it can be gotten rid of, or is so quiet it's insignificant, wouldn't say that would make it unwatchable like someone previously said. Just my 2 cents anyway, nice release TDi, much appreciated

crazyguy

:: why would you run a proper 5.1 system on a "virtual surround" that makes absolutely no sense to me....

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