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gspat
Jul 2002

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I cant wait to get this movie...

I havent seen this since god knows when.

Patiently waiting to view the sample!!

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kalvaitis007
May 2002


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The Ice Pirates is a great movie! I mean, come on.....SPACE HERPES alone make this movie cool. (Okay, I'm showing MY age now). You little women, dvix monkies, and people that don't appreciate hard to get stuff being rls'd need to go back to spankin' it to half-assed movie like Xtreme Ops and leave the business of good cinema to others.

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Jan 2003


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CVD sucks. A good cap card can easily do SVCD. Why waste 2 CDs on 35 files. CVD=352x480 SVCD=480x480, you do the math. CVD is a waste of time, get a better cap card. I'll wait for the DVDRip SVCD.

:: cap cards can do higher res, but due to the vhs format, capping at these higher res often results in poor quality picture. CVD has nothing to do with the hardware and everything about the source.. please learn what you're talking about first k (also this movie will probably NEVER be released on dvd.. sigh...)

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Jul 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by pHo
oke, you know how evil and nasty i can be (answer.. very!) so its unusual for mr pho to do anyone a favour, but a friend of a friend asked, so i'll be curteous for once this lifetime. also i like 80s films cos they remind me of having even worse hair than i do now. ahh the memories. anyway.

: edit : the following note was sent to me from a user on IRC, several people have been posting "i didn't know you were involved" etc... im just posting on behalf of "FLAiR" as a favour cos i agree with classic groups. im only nice once a month (anti-PMT) so i'll see yas in february. ha!

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How many of you even saw sample? Lets be honest now, how many could even _get_ sample?
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Put your hands up in the air if you even _know_ what CVD is , let alone how to encode it?
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Oh No its not some shitty telesync/cam of Just Married or fucking Kangaroo Jack it must be shit. Well guess what. The people who are involved in the real scene, not the fucking XDCC shit or whatever half you people use, are movie fans. The people who build up the real sites, the people who put out real releases, guess what.. they are movie fans. The people you love so much putting out the theater releases so your cheap fucking asses dont have to pay some overpaid studio are the people bringing you this stuff too. You see we're trying to educate your dumbasses with some good movies, and also bring you some enjoyment by bringing you the old films you watched as kids, and the cheesy ones we can all have a good laugh at.
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You want us to go away, sure we'll go away. But we'll take all those sexy DVDScreeners, TS' and pre-retail DVDRips we also do for you as well. Your stupidity and spitefulness disgusts me, and half the time I wonder why we bother doing the work we do. But I'll tell you why we do.. Because FLAiR only releases on friendly sites, with members who appreciate the work that we do, and we have fun releasing for these people. I couldn't give two fucks what the idiot people on this site think, or any other public site. If warez was for you assholes, we'd give it out in the street. But hell, I like to rant especially when I know I'm right.
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Ok about the CVD thing.. Yes we'll do more, its a great format. Half the people who rip screeners would use it if it wasn't for the slight compatability issue, but nobody has even attempted to experiment with it under their proper groups, so hell.. we'll be the first to do that shall we. In case you didn't know (and judging by your intelligence, you dont) CVD is a format that allows VHS rips to be done with a high vertical res comparable to SVCD, but a low horizontal res comparable to VCD and allows a variable bitrate as well. IE its the perfect solution to those who've failed dismally at ripping VHS to SVCD (we shan't be mean and name names, but you know who you are) whilst bringing the standard of VHS rips up.
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So thanks to the positive comments from people, we're glad people are liking what we're doing, and thanks to the negative comments too.. its always fun to see who the true idiots are. Go back to your SMR reencoded crap, your subtitled telesyncs (which aren't telesyncs) and your Jerry Springer TV shows, and let the rest of us have fun. VCDs aren't just for 'pirate movies' of those that you can't buy, and that half the stuff we will be releasing are from Out_Of_Print sources, foreign DVDs dubbed with english audio, highquality PDTV rips of movies that are unavailable on DVD and other goodies. Dont like movies and only interested in the "scene" to make a few lousy bucks off some kids in your highschool? Then ignore us and sell yourself out even more, for the rest of you.. enjoy what will come.
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Keep complaining? FLAiR'll keep releasing!
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well said i really respect u dude

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Jul 2002

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quote:
Originally posted by pHo
oke, you know how evil and nasty i can be (answer.. very!) so its unusual for mr pho to do anyone a favour, but a friend of a friend asked, so i'll be curteous for once this lifetime. also i like 80s films cos they remind me of having even worse hair than i do now. ahh the memories. anyway.

: edit : the following note was sent to me from a user on IRC, several people have been posting "i didn't know you were involved" etc... im just posting on behalf of "FLAiR" as a favour cos i agree with classic groups. im only nice once a month (anti-PMT) so i'll see yas in february. ha!

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How many of you even saw sample? Lets be honest now, how many could even _get_ sample?
..
Put your hands up in the air if you even _know_ what CVD is , let alone how to encode it?
..
Oh No its not some shitty telesync/cam of Just Married or fucking Kangaroo Jack it must be shit. Well guess what. The people who are involved in the real scene, not the fucking XDCC shit or whatever half you people use, are movie fans. The people who build up the real sites, the people who put out real releases, guess what.. they are movie fans. The people you love so much putting out the theater releases so your cheap fucking asses dont have to pay some overpaid studio are the people bringing you this stuff too. You see we're trying to educate your dumbasses with some good movies, and also bring you some enjoyment by bringing you the old films you watched as kids, and the cheesy ones we can all have a good laugh at.
..
You want us to go away, sure we'll go away. But we'll take all those sexy DVDScreeners, TS' and pre-retail DVDRips we also do for you as well. Your stupidity and spitefulness disgusts me, and half the time I wonder why we bother doing the work we do. But I'll tell you why we do.. Because FLAiR only releases on friendly sites, with members who appreciate the work that we do, and we have fun releasing for these people. I couldn't give two fucks what the idiot people on this site think, or any other public site. If warez was for you assholes, we'd give it out in the street. But hell, I like to rant especially when I know I'm right.
..
Ok about the CVD thing.. Yes we'll do more, its a great format. Half the people who rip screeners would use it if it wasn't for the slight compatability issue, but nobody has even attempted to experiment with it under their proper groups, so hell.. we'll be the first to do that shall we. In case you didn't know (and judging by your intelligence, you dont) CVD is a format that allows VHS rips to be done with a high vertical res comparable to SVCD, but a low horizontal res comparable to VCD and allows a variable bitrate as well. IE its the perfect solution to those who've failed dismally at ripping VHS to SVCD (we shan't be mean and name names, but you know who you are) whilst bringing the standard of VHS rips up.
..
So thanks to the positive comments from people, we're glad people are liking what we're doing, and thanks to the negative comments too.. its always fun to see who the true idiots are. Go back to your SMR reencoded crap, your subtitled telesyncs (which aren't telesyncs) and your Jerry Springer TV shows, and let the rest of us have fun. VCDs aren't just for 'pirate movies' of those that you can't buy, and that half the stuff we will be releasing are from Out_Of_Print sources, foreign DVDs dubbed with english audio, highquality PDTV rips of movies that are unavailable on DVD and other goodies. Dont like movies and only interested in the "scene" to make a few lousy bucks off some kids in your highschool? Then ignore us and sell yourself out even more, for the rest of you.. enjoy what will come.
..
Keep complaining? FLAiR'll keep releasing!
Greets to SiCK / BW / Other crews at M#

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[ beginning bit edited to make people understand more clearly... i need a drink.. -pHo ]




Just one little tiny thing, if you they truly loved the movies they'd own originals. I'm a filthy dirty pirate, I own over 300+ originals maide up of dvd's & VHS with about 20 original VCD from the very early 90's. I'm still a pirate, I still steal, I still hurt the ones I love. To say the scene is about loving movies is like saying napster was about loving music it is but it's not about appreciating the artist. A quick message at the end of an nfo's asking people to buy the originals isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference.

I love movies I really love movies I'm not sure all the epople who do this actually do love movies. I know a courier and he certainly doens't. He does it because you have to to keep elite. More hassle than it's worth.

PS remember when the movie industry is dead who it was who killed it.


PS I don't mean you PHO

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pHo
Oct 2001


pjeer?

well my opinion on movies is..

i own dozens of originals. i own dozens of pirates. the fact is, i spend all the money i can on buying originals (i bought like.. 15 dvds over 2 weeks afew weeks back) so whether i get the pirates doesn't mean i wont buy the originals.. cos i do!

in the case of some movies... a lot are out of print, and the people who made the movies wont see the money that people charge.. say a movie costs $100 when the rrp was only $20.. i'd rather get the pirate and when its rereleased i'll buy the original then. why help some ebay guy get rich off a few movies? when buying second hand the label/actors etc dont make any movie off it, just the individual selling, so that makes absolutely no difference.

the movie industry will never die because of piracy, its just a spin they come up with to make people feel guilty. the fact is, budgets are getting higher , takings are at an all time high, and piracy is bigger than ever... so it has a much much smaller affect on the movie industry than the MPAA will admit, and in a lot of ways, piracy helps hype a movie. i know plenty of films i'd never have bought or bothered to go and see if i hadn't seen a copy first. its the same with independant cinema... a lot of the time its very hard to get the releases legitimately, so someone who doesn't think they're interested in indie films might accidentally pick up an SVCD, and then get a great interest in the type of movies.

at the end of the day, the type of people in groups is split down the middle - those who agree in the whole warez ethic of supplying for free and giving the people the choice whether they want to buy the software or just to keep their place (like your friend), and those who just love spreading movies, no matter the age and the type. you'll find a lot of people supplying these things have absolutely huge collections, and all the films they supply come off the originals anyway, so its up to the people leeching to buy them in the future, not the people putting them out. just because they're there, doesn't mean you HAVE to take them.

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Exclamation !

If a flick is old, it doesnt mean it's bad, if it's released in the
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desertboy
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quote:
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well my opinion on movies is..

i own dozens of originals. i own dozens of pirates. the fact is, i spend all the money i can on buying originals (i bought like.. 15 dvds over 2 weeks afew weeks back) so whether i get the pirates doesn't mean i wont buy the originals.. cos i do!

in the case of some movies... a lot are out of print, and the people who made the movies wont see the money that people charge.. say a movie costs $100 when the rrp was only $20.. i'd rather get the pirate and when its rereleased i'll buy the original then. why help some ebay guy get rich off a few movies? when buying second hand the label/actors etc dont make any movie off it, just the individual selling, so that makes absolutely no difference.

the movie industry will never die because of piracy, its just a spin they come up with to make people feel guilty. the fact is, budgets are getting higher , takings are at an all time high, and piracy is bigger than ever... so it has a much much smaller affect on the movie industry than the MPAA will admit, and in a lot of ways, piracy helps hype a movie. i know plenty of films i'd never have bought or bothered to go and see if i hadn't seen a copy first. its the same with independant cinema... a lot of the time its very hard to get the releases legitimately, so someone who doesn't think they're interested in indie films might accidentally pick up an SVCD, and then get a great interest in the type of movies.

at the end of the day, the type of people in groups is split down the middle - those who agree in the whole warez ethic of supplying for free and giving the people the choice whether they want to buy the software or just to keep their place (like your friend), and those who just love spreading movies, no matter the age and the type. you'll find a lot of people supplying these things have absolutely huge collections, and all the films they supply come off the originals anyway, so its up to the people leeching to buy them in the future, not the people putting them out. just because they're there, doesn't mean you HAVE to take them.



You right piracy won't kill the industry but it will change it beyond belief. Piracy is getting worse, much worse and with the advent of broadband for masses it can only get worse. It's not so much the scene itself but the P2P programs that will do the damage.
The scene will supply and P2P will spread to the masses. I know P2P programs are still very much in there infancy but one day it will rule the world and with it will come great changes.

I commend you PHO for buying the films and spending what you can afford. I believe many involved in the scene have awesome collections of originals and a real respect for the artists. Unfortunatly I have my doubts that the majority of people who get the release have that same respect. How many people do you know who bought a playstation & chipped it just so they could play pirates (And how many of them actually went and bought a game they'd already pirated because they respected the developers.) They're are hard films to get hold of and I agree its better to pirate than buy 2nd hand at inflated prices. (To the industry their is little difference between piracy & 2nd hand)

Why I own so many originals, well as I said I love movies most of my dvd's I bought I bought simply because I couldn't get them elsewhere at the time (70% are imports). I doubt I'd own so many if I could have downloaded them off the net. I can think of only 10 movies I've bought after I had copies of them.

Crouching tiger, Momento, Leon (Uncut), True romance, Schindlers List, Akira Box set, Battleship Royale, Gremlins (A classic for me at least), Heathers & of course Nightmare Before Christmas.

Maybe I'm just a dirty pirate as I first surmised but I think i'm just the tip of a very very large iceberg that's getting bigger everyday.


I don't have to take his warez but you know I will and I know many many more will. It's a very simple when you look at it head on. Why pay when you can get it for free, I know people who spend 35 pounds a month ($50-60) a month on broadband yet justify there actions by saying they can't afford movies which is why they pirate them. I've read many posts to that affect right here on this board. That's the mentality of people it's simple why a few might honour and respect artists most will say how much they adored such and such they're really glad they downloaded it.

The ideal solution would be for the movie industry to embrace the internet rather than being scared of it. I would happily pay a reasonable price for a fast reliable download of a movie from an official website in fact it would probably stop me pirating movies. (Not DVDScr's of course)

I don't want to lose my warez but I really really don't want to lose my movies.

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lo.pro
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the attitude of some people is pathetic.

first of all, i totally respect what the author of that letter had to say, and pretty much agree with it.

secondly, OOP movies, stuff that was never released to DVD, foreign/e-subbed/indie films absolutely need a release outlet. i would 100x rather see a vhs-rip of an OOP flick than a REAL.PROPER shitty rip from a silver of some crap movie.

thirdly, the dedication it takes to do such a thing is far greater than what it takes to do half of the releases that are totally accepted by the scene.

fourth, the bit about 'piracy is killing the movie industry' is pure crap. the box office figures climb every single year, at a far greater rate than does inflation. also, commonly-held industry myths like "movies never do well except in the summer and in nov-dec (holiday months)" has crumbled, in the wake of such smash off-season releases like the sixth sense. furthermore, the biggest box-office weekends of all time have all happened recently, as piracy has gotten bigger than ever. piracy has either helped the industry, or not effected it at all.

and here's a piece of info for you kiddies: i know some ppl in this group; they are all members of groups whose asses you kiss on a regular basis, and who receive constant praise from people here. they're not doing it to get sites, or to "figure out a way to contribute to the scene", or whatever other lame reason you might be imagining about them. they are doing it because they think that these movies shouldn't die, and for fun, and so ppl who like to watch stuff other than the normal crap can have the option to do so (if they're lucky enough to be on a site that accepts this sort of thing).

the bottom line is, it doesn't affect anyone at all if they do release it. most sites will not accept this sort of release, and nothing forces them to, so as far as they're concerned it might as well have never been released at all. so if those are the sites you're on, you'll never see it, your siteops will never see it, and it will make no difference to you who (if anyone) does see it.

but i encourage siteops to consider this type of release, especially siteops of archives and others that take classic dvdrips. not every good movie is or will be released on dvd. don't let this fact that this doesn't fit into a 'normal' scene catagory cause you to reject it out of hand... don't let the bad judgement of some studio exec, who'd rather spend the studio's money on making 'crossroads' than on releasing to dvd some of the older, quality films, cause them to become lost to whole generations of viewers.

people, don't be assholes. 90% of you aren't even in the scene, and so have absolutely nothing to say about whether or not the scene should or shouldn't accept this sort of thing. if you don't want it fine. you probably couldn't get it anyway. i'm probably going to pass on this particular one, myself, but hell, if i did want it i'd be hard pressed to get it; and i'm on all kinds of sites. if you do want it but can't get it, petition your siteops (if you have any) to allow it. if you want to comment on the quality of the rip itself, by all means do so. if you want to try to convince everyone about how leet you are by talking smack and saying stupid shit like "i think i'll wait for the dvd" on a movie that'll probably never be released to dvd, stfu.

i don't know much about cvd format, so i won't really comment on that other than to say, i'll bet a lot more ppl had compatibility issues with, for instance, the recent spate of dvdscr's in PAL, than they will with a CVD.

you may now resume your normal programming (already in progress).

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pHo
Oct 2001


pjeer?

the main thing about piracy is..

the people who are "the problem" ie the people who just download and don't buy any movies... they wouldn't buy them anyway the MPAA's figures, are thru rose-tinted specs.. they have the presumption that every single movie pirated would've been purchased by the pirater. of course not. i've watched plenty of films on cdr just because i could get it for free... mainly so i could then write a scathing review of it. if id had to pay my own money, i simply wouldn't have bothered. Rob Schneider will never see any of my money, yet i've watched an unfortunate amount of his films

p2p networks... man... 99% of the crap that goes around there.. hell, if i was in a movie label, i'd consider them as trailers.. ie gives people a look at what the film is like, but thats it. horrible quality, and generally divx trash anyway, so the whole p2p thing is overblown. the main piracy problem is nothing to do with the internet, and is the problem thats been there for years, which is the azn mass producemenet of cheap silvers/pirate dvds with the films on, mainly obtained from their own sources. these people are a lot more powerful than a bunch of kids behind a pc, so who do the feds look for ?

exactly.

i have absolutely no moral problem with movie piracy whatsoever, and it turns me on to see the rich and powerful squirm because of it. if we were dealing with a one man operation with no staff, selling his movies to feed his kids, it'd be one thing, but its not... and as long as Rob Schneider is being paid stupid amounts of money to act like a retard, i'll back this team.

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guys

RELAX!!! this movie was cool when i was a kid of course its not so good now but so are most of the movies we thought were cool as a kid it doesnt stop us wanting to watch it again for old times sake right? lol

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Oct 2001


pjeer?

did you even look how old this thread was before you replied?

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May 2002


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I thought, "maybe he just woke up from a coma."

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Oct 2001


pjeer?

coma's are great. more people should consider them as career options.

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haha

i did a search for pirates of the carribean and this came up as well too funny!!!
i never thought about how old the thread was!!!
sorry guys!!!!

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