lo.pro
Mar 2002
Senior Member
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the attitude of some people is pathetic.
first of all, i totally respect what the author of that letter had to say, and pretty much agree with it.
secondly, OOP movies, stuff that was never released to DVD, foreign/e-subbed/indie films absolutely need a release outlet. i would 100x rather see a vhs-rip of an OOP flick than a REAL.PROPER shitty rip from a silver of some crap movie.
thirdly, the dedication it takes to do such a thing is far greater than what it takes to do half of the releases that are totally accepted by the scene.
fourth, the bit about 'piracy is killing the movie industry' is pure crap. the box office figures climb every single year, at a far greater rate than does inflation. also, commonly-held industry myths like "movies never do well except in the summer and in nov-dec (holiday months)" has crumbled, in the wake of such smash off-season releases like the sixth sense. furthermore, the biggest box-office weekends of all time have all happened recently, as piracy has gotten bigger than ever. piracy has either helped the industry, or not effected it at all.
and here's a piece of info for you kiddies: i know some ppl in this group; they are all members of groups whose asses you kiss on a regular basis, and who receive constant praise from people here. they're not doing it to get sites, or to "figure out a way to contribute to the scene", or whatever other lame reason you might be imagining about them. they are doing it because they think that these movies shouldn't die, and for fun, and so ppl who like to watch stuff other than the normal crap can have the option to do so (if they're lucky enough to be on a site that accepts this sort of thing).
the bottom line is, it doesn't affect anyone at all if they do release it. most sites will not accept this sort of release, and nothing forces them to, so as far as they're concerned it might as well have never been released at all. so if those are the sites you're on, you'll never see it, your siteops will never see it, and it will make no difference to you who (if anyone) does see it.
but i encourage siteops to consider this type of release, especially siteops of archives and others that take classic dvdrips. not every good movie is or will be released on dvd. don't let this fact that this doesn't fit into a 'normal' scene catagory cause you to reject it out of hand... don't let the bad judgement of some studio exec, who'd rather spend the studio's money on making 'crossroads' than on releasing to dvd some of the older, quality films, cause them to become lost to whole generations of viewers.
people, don't be assholes. 90% of you aren't even in the scene, and so have absolutely nothing to say about whether or not the scene should or shouldn't accept this sort of thing. if you don't want it fine. you probably couldn't get it anyway. i'm probably going to pass on this particular one, myself, but hell, if i did want it i'd be hard pressed to get it; and i'm on all kinds of sites. if you do want it but can't get it, petition your siteops (if you have any) to allow it. if you want to comment on the quality of the rip itself, by all means do so. if you want to try to convince everyone about how leet you are by talking smack and saying stupid shit like "i think i'll wait for the dvd" on a movie that'll probably never be released to dvd, stfu.
i don't know much about cvd format, so i won't really comment on that other than to say, i'll bet a lot more ppl had compatibility issues with, for instance, the recent spate of dvdscr's in PAL, than they will with a CVD.
you may now resume your normal programming (already in progress).
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This perceived misuse of Internet resources caused former Dutch education minister Loek Hermans to comment: "It would be nice if the students at Twente University would use their fast connections for information and education purposes, instead of downloading huge amounts of porn."
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Last edited by lo.pro on 01-31-2003 at 09:08 PM
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