they got 5.1 sound because they were able to crack the DTS DISC. This is an incredible establishment as for i know ppl with dts discs for over a year and still havent cracked it. This is definetly one of the biggest break throughs ever in the scene if i shall say and hopefully they will pass the technology on. For ppl complaining, umm u actually think they wont rls the svcd with the same sound? they just gotta mux the vid with ac3 sound.

Picture is good 9/10/15.. i dont even think this should be called a ts, idk it needs a name cuz its alot better then direct audio.

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ok i wasn't aware that they cracked the dts disc, however this has been done before with sacd's, dts audio discs, and dvd audio, they have been cracked and put on regular cds.

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Nice try, but no cigar. The first half is still to dark and picture quality is still laughable. Props on the case design and 5.1, a major feat IMO. Menus and chapterswere a treat also. In the end too much time and effort for something that you can get on the SVCD; just wait for a better copynext time and keep pioneering video experimentation.
PS: I think this is the first movie ever released that is just impossible to film with a CAM. Every copy is dark and the characters mostly appear solid black when wearing leather (grrr).

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Every Joe and his mother doesn't cam their own releases. Nor do they have the means to get 5.1 audio from in-theater movies.
While this may not be for everyone you should all appreciate the technical merit that has been accomplished here.

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I totally agree.. If I were the one who spent hours putting this shit together for a 'community' of people to spread around i sure as hell wouldnt listen to the bullshit reply's on how its a waste.. maybe it is a waste to you.. Sure its a buck a disc .. oh boo fuggin who.. I spend more for a cold brew.. I myslef would enjoy a damn dvdr of the matrix reloaded just as much if not more than a cold one..

so quit your bitching and enjoy the flick.. if you dont want it dont reply..

My reply is just to let ctp know they still rock..and sure keep em commin.. I see no problem with a TS DVDR.. things change.. deal with it..

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This is fucking awesome!!!

really Awesome and well done by centrophy!

most of those idiots dont understand that the scene is about evolution.

people who really do this for fun dont care about so called rules.
we are pirates and breaking alreay all rules remember.

so if centrophy try to start something new I welcome it and I only hope they will expand this with the upcoming release of Finding nemo. I really hope this will shut up the movie companies with their release dates. if they dont go world wide like matrix did , well fuck it then. I have to wait another 5 months before Finding Nemo will be played in the country I live in. I dont want to wait that long!

so instead of taking my money like they did with matrix reloaded. because yes I watched that at the cinema because it was released world wide.
but for finding nemo it will be different. I will watch finding Nemo happily at home on my dvdr player I hope soon!

so keep up the good work centrophy!!!

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getting the sample now...hopefull it is as good as you guys say it is...

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there's a spanish group called EMW that released a Matrix Reloaded Screener and DTS audio in divx format, 700mb on May 26, i'm trying to get it. i wouldn't be suprised if this was the source from which CTP got the DTS. it might be that second language that the nfo talk about (if any knows, please reply). thank god i can read spanish

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Sample looks amazing, but I'd like to get more information about it as far as the sound source and any other different methods used to encode this amazing TS.

You can nuke them, bash them, or whatever, but CTP is going to keep being innovative, so you'll defintly thank them later.

Cant wait to see what this really looks like when its all finished.

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well seeing as the second language is german and not spanish.... but i do love these centropy conspiracy theories everyone loves inventing.

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wow....thats pretty damn good...and the sound, 100 million times better than SVCD...picture is damn good too...I can't believe its a TS...

definitely going to have to waste somebandwith tonight

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2. language is german for sure ... and 5.1 line dubs have been rather common in germany for quite a while ... tgsc (the german screener crew ... mentioned in the nfo) must have found one hell of a supplier for line dubs ... their sound is usually crystal clear ... hard to impossible to make out a difference from a dvd source ... in other words the sound is _not_ from ctp though im very pleased to see the finest cammers work together with the finest dubbers ...

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History in the making...at least for us online movies nerds.
CTP is raising the the very fucking high. 9/9.5/9

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So they ran the dts track through a dolby digital encoder? Or is this dts theory incorrect? If not they should've left it, or included it along with the dolby digital and dump the german track. I'm sure they'd still have enough space for video. Anyway nice to see something new, I knew I had all these optodiscs for a reason.

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*sigh* Maybe they should try to get rid of angles [See:Bruce almighty] AND 5.1 i would care, but until they can actually get a SVCD TS without an angle, no need to dvdr something when you cant get the svcd right

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I like the TS/DVDR idea better then the 3CD SVCD. But being region 1, PAL format is useless and unplayable here. Oh well, guess the SVCD will have to do.

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Ok, for all those who don't know...

1) 5.1 can be encoded though scenerist AC3 encoder. Just insert the wav files, and wala... 5.1 AC3 Audio.

2) CTP caps their own movies, sells them to the guys who does the silvers, then they take the original source (digital tape) and make them DVDs. CTP just took the silver DVD and released it.

I like the idea of free silver DVDs, so I'm not complaining. Just filling ya in on the scoop.

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err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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err, the SVCD was pal...

and Josh, where did you get this information? is it just common knowledge or are you using a source?

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The TS DVD-R is PAL ......I"m actually disappointed Centropy would create a PAL DVD-R . It does not play on my Pioneer or Samsung, only the Apex...

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In the end, a TS is still a TS... you can add nitrous and aerodynamics to a honda but under the hood it's still a honda Sounds better, looks slightly better but still plagued by it's distinct similarities. Video still 40% cropped around the edges (especially the bottom), angle still apparent, motion blur and luminance flicker common in telesyncs still wreaking havoc, grainy video is even more noticeable and looks only .01% better than the SVCD. Supporters can go and call everyone else names and think CTP is revolutionalizing the scene by releasing DVDR TS's but in the end it just wont work. Why you ask? For the same reason divx/xvid ts's didn't (and still doesn't) work (nice try though DEiTY)! Some formats are meant for it and some aren't. CTP did a great job being the first to encode TS's as SVCD but that was only successful because they were moving from an outdated videocd format to an "improved upon" vcd format (SVCD) mainly to rid of pixelation and improve clarity, with a DV source you can only stretch the quality to a certain limit (the SVCD/CVD formats are basically THAT limit). Don't get me wrong, I'm not "hating" on CTP but just giving my opinion and prediction of the matter. Formats like DVDR and DiVX are meant specifically for DVD, that's what they're optimized for.. No one wants to grab 4.7GB's worth of TS (even on 100Mbit links.. Hell!, some don't even bother with/allow DVD Screener DVDR's), it's not worth the time, bandwith or my $0.65 DVDR disc. And with the DVDR Scene having somewhat established rules like the divx scene, the fans and supporters will just keep throwing rocks at it until it's 6 feet under. As for DVDR quality rating, 5/8/11. peace!

BTW, anyone who's someone in the movie scene even in the weakest groups knows about what JoshNya posted. It's just not scene ettiquette to discuss it with ignorant (I didn't say stupid, because that's not what ignorant means) forum posters and non-scene related persons, it's just not right. Props TGSC for cracking the DTS discs though, and kudos to CTP for trying something new even though I have my doubts and dislikes about it.

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