very squished, but overall great video quality.

audio is poor though. very poor.

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Just checked the whole first disc on my tv and audio is alot better then it sounds on my comp. My tv just has crappy built in speakers though so dunno if thats why it comes out alright.

8/8/10 now

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7/6/?

About us being used to CTP releases..
Well since CTP has such good releases the other groups need to step up =) we should disreguard the name before judging too because i have seen higher than neccessary scores for CTP releases...when they didnt deserve that

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Sample played fine for me. no wiggin out. The sound has a tiny bit of scratching noise coming from the center channel but very decent(maybe i have my shit hooked up wrong ) . anyways the movie was a little washed out but if it wasn't the night/dark scenes would be pitch black.

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Checked out the whole movie and my rating still stands. Don't know why this is deemed a mislabeled cam. Audio seemed direct enough.

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Its funny watching everyone rate this movie.

The video was very cropped on the top, bottom and the right side of the screen is cropped. The camera wasnt placed in the center of the screen. The aspect ratio is off so download the ESOTERiC copy for PROPER aspect ratio. Night scenes are bar scenes were really dark and the color wasnt the best. I adjusted the contrast, brightness and color on my TV for better picture. Now why couldnt TcS have done that in the first place? Colors were a bit washed out and it looked like it was too bright.

Audio sounded like it was recorded to high and you will get some static when the actors talk. On my standalone and my TV I had to keep turning the volume up and down because one scene would be super loud then when people talked it was low.

If this is a *Mislabeled Cam* then the ESOTERiC is a *Mislabeled Cam* as well because they used the same source which was a pdvd. I watched this release and I think it was a CAM as well because if the audio was direct, which I dont think it was, then they did a terrible job with that. Although I never heard any laughing or what not, but then again its not a comedy and it was so loud, we wouldnt hear the audience.

As for the movie, I thought the plot was pretty pathetic. Great acting, cast, character development and action sequences but overall they took a phrase and made it into a movie. 'I'll give $100 million to anyone who gets me out of here'.

So there you have it. Go ahead and flame me out because im a picky ass motherfucker, but im just telling you the truth

6/5/6

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Originally posted by xlsvcd
The aspect ratio is off so download the ESOTERiC copy for PROPER aspect ratio.

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Video: pretty good..little burry and faded at times but in general not bad for a cam.

Audio: is acceptable although a little tinny.

movie: good

7|6|8

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Nice!

Not a bad release if you can handle the audio track Picture was a bit foggy and there were motion issues, but overall it is definitely watchable.

7.5/10 Video
6/10 Audio
? movie

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great for a cam and rls time.......
8/10 video
8/10 audio - - - - - it's a cam!
haven't watched enough for a fair rating

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You are a complete idiot if you give this a 8/8

If a DVD is 10 then this release is not an 8!!!
Seriously a VHS Screener with stereo audio would be 8.

Now let's see if we can make a fair score.

Video
Cropped picture: -3
Blurry: -1
Color Problems: -1
Darkness: -1
Total for video quality: 4 out of 10

Audio
Not digital surround: -3
(remember if DVD is 10 and will most likely have digital audio of some sort)
Crackle: -2
Total for audio quality: 5 out of 10


Okay I think even these scores are generous but seriously people THINK BEFORE YOU RATE!!! Just because a movie is out quick or it is your favorite movie that does not mean it deserves and extra rating for quality.

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Your a complete idiot Mr. 2 posts!!
Why don't you read up on the forums before you go flaming you fuckin moron.
This is a CAM not sure if ya know what that means but...... all these rating are based on it being a CAM.
No one said I will never dl the dvd screener/screener because this is so incredible. Once again all these are based on it being a CAM rls dipshit.
Go to the home page and read up a little an what a CAM is and for that matter what all this is about. Bcause based on your reply you have know idea what you are talkin about, and YOU look like a complete idiot. Then come back and post you ignorant fuck.
All you people are like "dl the esoteric for proper aspect ratio" the ESOTERiC is missing 20 minutes of the fucking ending!!!!!!!!!

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7.0 For video - Its good, but it has some heads in it, and who is that guy at the end who stands up?

5.0 For audio - Not good, not good at all.

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* AFTER WATCHING THIS WHOLE REALESE *
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OK guys, i have sat though all the rls of this movie
and this one is for shure the best. People are rating it very harsh. Its got decent color and was cammed decently, the audio all though not the best, is certainatly up 2 par with other cams we have seen. If ur gonna get a rls get this one hands down it wins.
THIS QUALITY IS GREAT. And i am seroius. ITs most deff watchable.

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i was wondering...if this is a cam, why weren't there any crowd noises? coughing, sniffs, etc. and where were the howls when ll took his shirt off, i thought chicks dug that stuff. ah well.

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Out of syned for me! Picture is ok, audio is horrible!

7/4/-

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i thought it was good, i burned the movie to a dvd-r. played on my aspire 1100, recorded on my panasonic.

video was clean

audio was clear, not perfect, but good nonetheless

very respectable release

7/7/9

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seriously to the guy who wants to rate cams on the same scale as dvds, you have to be kidding me. how many times must it be said to rate this as a ts/cam 1-10 scale. obviously dvdrips are going to be better than a ts, no shit its not going to have surround sound you fucking idiot... why do you post here without at least reading up a little... now for this release, does seem squashed, but is highly watchable, sound is fine on my tv and pic is good too. i noticed one small skip/stall on cd1, thats it. Hoping for tcf or ctp to release this, but i dont know.

7.5/8.5(cam rating)/only watched cd1 so far...

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It's been so hard
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Turn my head up,
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So many years,
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Every day I ask myself why?
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I guess it was labelled cam, because of the audio. Well, I actually tend to disagree. true, audio sux, but I could understand everything pretty well (english is not my mother tongue). with these releases recorded in the cinema it's not about good sound, if you want good audio quality, ac3 or whatever, wait till the dvdrip. otherwise just enjoy it.

Anyway, I give 8 for video and 5 for audio.

The movie itself is one of the worst I've ever seen - no wonder, it was made by the people who made "the fast and the furious", as far as I know. totally stupid, unrealistic and boring. I nearly fell asleep. The evil guys are as evil as my grandma. They are ridiculous, not evil.

The only reason to watch the movie might be Collin Farrell's presence.

btw, a very important reason NOT to watch the movie (apart from its stupidity) is the presence of Michel Rodriguez, or whatever this stupid bitch is called. She is not only an extremely bad actress and extremely dumb, what is even worse, she looks like SHIT! Who put her in the movie? She was shitty in Resident evil and she was shitty in this movie. And if she ever acts again, she won't be any better.

So if you wanna spend 10 hours downloading the movie to be bored by it for 2 hours, go ahead and download. I suggest however, to switch off the monitor and the loudspeakers while playing the movie. This way you won't have to endure Rodriguez' stupid face and the stupid story.

0 for the script and 0 for the camera work. and 0 for originality - every single scene is stolen from other movies - "Speed" and others. Kill the script writer, kill the camera man and kill the girl!

8/5/1 (I give 1 for Collin Farrel's presence; subjective opinion, of course. imho, in other words).

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7/6/8.5

Video is good but audio is annoying in a few parts. Overall it's a decent release and the movie was much better than I was expecting.

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