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commiewhore
Jan 2003


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Originally posted by firefighter
Well , i commented on quality - now im gonna comment on sheep baaaaaah

Seeing iMPERIAL's movie getting nuked *odd* places for reason: not.needed

Now lets look at the facts - PROPER usually means better right? Better quality , Better AR , Better Sound ..... among other things.

TCFs Copy - colors were washed , the frames were screwed, the picture was overall watchable but not nice. The Sound ... sounded a bit mic'ish and got bad at times during the movie.

iMPERIALs Copy - Colors were ok , Perfectly cropped , nice & clear , much better picture. The Sound ... resembles TCF's copy wont know if it gets good or bad till i watch the complete movie but sounds ok ... so far.

Now if the sound resembled each other - the frames were better on iMPERIALs , and the picture was much much better as it is .... sounds like a valid proper to me.

Now lets look back in Time ... ahhh a movie comes to mind - Hellboy! BAHA , MPT , Centropy all clearly *same sources* (unlike this movie - The Punisher ), what was the difference in them. Better Picture , Better Sound , Better Encoding. Wow Centropy didnt get nuked.

Which brings me to the point: (thinking to an nfo from BAHA 2 days ago SM3-VOB.NF0.nfo) Quote reason #3: "the scene still hates new groups"

I hate to say it but i will , Had this said -Centropy , -TCR on it or had iMPERIAL not propered "-TCF", they mighta stood a chance everywhere. Instead nukers love to hate new grps and even though this is clearly a much better copy then TCF - nuke it for not needed? pffff

No im not with iMPERIAL release grp. Im just tired of all the sheep nukers out there who need to go back to 10mb's.





speaking as someone who watched both releases...there is nothing wrong with the TCF version...remember this is a proper of a TELESYNC...only thing that should have propered the TCF version would have been TELECINE SCREENER OR DVDSCR OR DVD ....now yea i am sometimes a fan of the SVCD CTP rlses days later than other rlses, only when they are needed. but the TCF version is WAY MORE THAN watcheable , on tv, xbox, or even pc. There really was no need for this. Now if they came out with say a tru proper to Kill Bill , since for 6 mins in cd2 of TCR rls the reel flicks over and over, and in the VideoCD proper all the words are centered at the end cause its cropped to shit and stretched. Now that is a movie, that would deserve a proper. but this movie does not. so i can understand why it got nuked. Sheep nukers are a problem, i wont disagree, but yea nice job IMPERIAL on the rls, but you were too late..after sws made a shitty rls, TCF was perfect...shit if you compare TCF and IMPERIAL, the AR is exact, IMPERIAL's is cropped correctly prolly casue they had more time, and has more saturation in the color...shit this could even be the same silver. Cleaning up the audio and video wouldnt be hard if it was same source as TCF, you know its a silver....since their requests in the nfo make that known, and when was the last time you saw TCF camming alot, they prolly had the same. so its not impossible to be same source just cleaned up correctly.


as for the rls

7 = audio
7 = video
8 = movie


first let me say.. this movie was fucking exactly what it should have been. if any of you read the comic, i was disturbed at first that he only had one kid in the movie, cause i wasnt sure how that would effect when his family was killed, its sooo hollywood to make it one kid instead of two cause it means more to the audience...but then...well then there was the SLAUGHTER!!! of the entire family...which by far was an intense scene, especially the part with the car running them down...i mean shit, they even showed it as much as they could. AMAZING folks....really cool setup, and for people thinking ..OMG THIS IS SOO UNBELIEVABLE , OMG THIS COULDNT BE LIKE THIS, HOW DOES HE DO THAT ?....answer he is the muther fucking punisher..read the comic.. he is a Senior LT of the fucking FBI, you think he has never shot a sawed off shotgun before, even one handed ? i mean come on people, he was train undercover killer. he knew everything of weapons, and im glad none of that shit was wasted for explaination in the movie...you just should know...THE PUNISHER WAS A BAD ASS...this is almost better than the original with Dolph Lundgren...mainly cause there is no nudity shot in the sewer.. then the russian..oh man, that screams comic book...the entire movie was like reading a comic, the bantor was perfect, the extra characters aka his neighbors were just as sappy in the movie as they were in the book...and guess what it had sometthing WAYYY OVER HELL BOY

good actors, playing WELL in depth charcters, ones you can relate to a bit and ones you actually want to watch...hellboy lacked the casting completely, every time someone was on screen it was terrible, the acting was piss poor the bantor was second rated, followed up by ACTION sequences ..."Red means Stop" ...come on...thats not comic book, thats not LEGENDARY HEROES wanting to be HEROES, its Hellboy made to look like Blade but with a team of EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN....i was extremely upset, even since the comic creator helped out greatly on the movie...it was still bad...so anyone who wants to get off the critics dicks on that movie...trust me, if you read the comic, it wasnt good, the comic was goofy with some seriousness but always with a good smile...but the casting for the movie was terrible..completely wrongly casted, along with his team members that were almost llike jerry's kids on stage...even the C3P0 look alike robot voice was bad...just didnt work with the the settings, RAsputin was cheesy as hell looking along with his VOLDO like 2nd in command..i mean shit, you dont have to make the movie for kids, just cause its based on a comic...we will see real genius when Frank Miller brings us Sin City...be afraid folks...FRANKIE IS THE MAN when it comes to writing...pz enjoy the punisher

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Jan 2003


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I had to continue the post, cause i completely forgot the best part of this movie...well i forgot to elaborate how good the death was in the beginning. There is so much death in the first 10 mins of the film, they dont just kill 1 10yr old kid, they kill like 8 of them and an entire family..and they show you the kids faces before the guns go off in them...like shit like that isnt really shown too much in comic films, and im glad they didnt dumb the violence down for this flick..shit if any of you even read the comic, the War Journal and the Christmas special where he knifes a villian dressed as santa clause..ALONE are amazing comics...some of the best.. violent, dark, and explosive...doin this in the film allows for an anything goes premise in the movie...you just watched a family and 10 yr old kids slaughtered..you have no idea what this man would do...if you were in his position, you would prolly do the same...the next scene is ridden with whether or not he kills a stooly, lets him live, or burns him to death...the whole movie is like that, you just dont know what he will do...shit even when he fights with the russian, he gets his ass kicked, untill he is knocked into the neighbor's ...DIRECTLY looks at the hot neighbor and the other two losers who admire him, and just has this "fuck this, i gotta save some face look" and boom he is kicking ass...FOLKS THATS A COMIC BOOK, FOLKS THATS A MOVIE...THAT MY FRIENDS IS MARVEL!

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lo.pro
Mar 2002

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speaking as someone who watched both releases...there is nothing wrong with the TCF version...remember this is a proper of a TELESYNC...only thing that should have propered the TCF version would have been TELECINE SCREENER OR DVDSCR OR DVD ...


those wouldn't proper it either, because they're in a different release category. only a TS can proper another TS.

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playstationer
Apr 2004

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Excellent quality thanks iMPERiAL

8/8/8

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KillMePlz
Apr 2004

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This Release is under rated!

This is a really good release. Don't judge it just because the movie wasn't what you were expecting. It's the freaking Punisher FFS! The story is sposse to be like that, dark, stale, aboding. If you were expecting Xmen or Blade, forget it. Thats why it's getting slammed by anybody and everybody with a pen and a pot to piss in, cause thats what they are writing like, pissin' all over this film. If any of those guys read Dark Horse comics, or even a Punisher comic from Marvel would know this was true to form.
For the movie the pic was the best! Better than most of the "perfect ones".

Why only 7's for sound and pic?
9/8/8
Definitely better than Kill Bill 2 from the other groups.

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dalton4life
Jun 2003


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This is quite possibly the least needed proper ever. It's same source with a slightly better enocde and AR. The sample shows it's the same source because both versions have the same tape pop right before the guy asks Castle where's he's been. At least this is better than the TCF version but not by much. I thought it was enjoyable action flick. Thomas Jane's portrayal was pretty dead on for how I evisioned The Punisher being as real life person. It would have been cool if he was a little bigger like Dolph Lundgren but he was still good. Marvel gets it right once again.

8/7/8

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xenomorph
May 2003


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quite interesting reading this thread, reading everyones views, i think everyone has made some interesting points, but at the end of the day the this is a good release, audio is good and pic also (if not slightly grainy)

7.5/7/8

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concius
Apr 2004


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audio - 6
video - 7
movie - 5

better than other releases out there but still not a great flix

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Felix-the-cat
Mar 2004

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RATING

Just finised watching the movie and i must give to 7.2/7.5/8

color was ok a bit dark at parts, audio was good too.

keep up the good work

I liked the movies even though they putchered the story how his family was murdered.. but it was a nice release

Hope they keep then atleast that this level instead of 2.5 type releases

FELIX

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sunploded
Jan 2002


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the colors are either red or orange, but can be fixed... liked the movie alot
8/8/8

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Feb 2004


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definately the best of the three releases so far, mainly as the audio is direct, solving the problems of the sWs release.

picture - still pixellated, not nearly as seriously as before, colours are much better, however it is a little dark.

audio - sweet, pretty direct, a mile better than the sWs rip, thank god!!

movie - really liked it, see my sWs post for my full feelings on this film

7/8/9

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Sep 2002


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i agree commiewhore - this movie was alot better then recent Marvel Comic's played out on the big screen latley. My Still fav's are Spiderman & X-Men . Overall i was expecting another hollywood disapointment like Hellboy , The Hulk , DareDevil, League of Extrodinary Gentelmen, trying to make a quick $$$ off of a well liked comic hero. I read alot of "The Punisher" comics as a kid and i thought this movie was played out pretty good. Only thing that didnt seem "believeable" was his healing time - he wasnt like "Wolverine" in "X-Men" where he gets hurt & heals seconds later. Some of the scenes in this movie he took a shit kicking ie: The Russian guy who beat the hell outta him but yet later on he still went out & kicked some ass. The Movie in general was pretty good played out towards to comics and enjoyable , not a favorite Marvel comic movie but still way better then the crap hollywood has been producing the last two years.

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Mar 2004

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I haven't seen the other 2 of this one but I would say this is a fair ts. A little blurry sound is good

7/8/??

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target
Jul 2002

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loved it...good. movie.
had some problems with cd2 tho...
some pixelation and skips...
well...maybe it was my burning...

7/8/9

loved the movie.

about the violence....well...there is some violence..
but nothing like you havent seen.
especially in the beginning, most of it goes in your head...
as you dont see it explicitly...(vcd that is..since i havent been able to watch a fuckin dubbed version in the german theatre yet...lol)

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sunup187
Feb 2004


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this quality wasnt too bad a pair of 7's i'd say. and for the movie i thought it was good, exspecially when the russian dude which was Kevin Nash from wwf/wcw, kicks his ass. one of the good moments hah, good fight.

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rawgwar
Dec 2002

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Thumbs up

I thought the sound was a bit better, video was clean with no slow frames etc. The movie overall was alright, but not too exciting.

7.3/8/6

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evestor
May 2004

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Pretty much straight "blah" release.
Watchable, but nothing spectacular. I did like the movie though.
Bout damn time a Marvel movie was darker and not afraid to be mean-spirited. The Punisher isnt nice, and isn't depicted as being so here.

6/6/8

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Miller
Jul 2004


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video is a little blue and grannie. sounds pretty good. alot better the previouse release but now their is DVDscr out so this kind pointless

7/7/8

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