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eighty5
Jan 2004

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Some people on this forum simple amaze me. I guess a few of you dont know what INTERNAL means.

It means it was made for the group, Internally, and isnt suppose to be available for everyone to download, and plus this was not put out to compete with maVen's whatsoever.

This was put out as for people who didnt understand the french subtitles within the group iMPERiAL.

This isnt to compete with maVen's copy people.

6/6/6

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lance
Aug 2003

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no need for this. maVen's copy is the best going around.

6/6/?

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commiewhore
Jan 2003


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quote:
Originally posted by eighty5
Some people on this forum simple amaze me. I guess a few of you dont know what INTERNAL means.

It means it was made for the group, Internally, and isnt suppose to be available for everyone to download, and plus this was not put out to compete with maVen's whatsoever.

This was put out as for people who didnt understand the french subtitles within the group iMPERiAL.

This isnt to compete with maVen's copy people.

6/6/6




im sorry to have offended you, but its up for at least review, if its on this page, its fair game i guess, thats how it seems these forrums go....but seriously...why would a grp, and this is quoting you, rls a movie internally for the people who didnt understand the french subs within the grp......? why rls it at all then, if its within the grp, make no rls of it, jsut send it to each other.....oh well, im done...just you called these folk simple and then said that...its just not right...its just not right!!

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Sin316
May 2004

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and they said in the info themselve "a nice portion of the movie is subbed"

a nice portion ? wtf , its like 10 lines max lol. and what they say then its totally irrelevant to the movie. as someone said "did you kill him .. yes. . you sure .. yes ... k heres your money" .. those lines doesnt matter at all. Making a rls , internal or not , with the obvious far less quality is a waste of time in my eyes.

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akasmiler
Jun 2004

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the quality is, how do you say, pretty dire

rated 5/5/8

why could they not have taken the maven rls and added the english subs to that??

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VOorheES-ToUc
Feb 2004


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quote:
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why would a grp, and this is quoting you, rls a movie internally for the people who didnt understand the french subs within the grp......? why rls it at all then, if its within the grp, make no rls of it, jsut send it to each other....


Thats What An Internal Is Guy, Even Though They Send To Each Other It Leaks Outta The Group And Spreads.

On The Release 6/6/8

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desertboy
Jul 2002

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quote:
Originally posted by eighty5
Some people on this forum simple amaze me. I guess a few of you dont know what INTERNAL means.

It means it was made for the group, Internally, and isnt suppose to be available for everyone to download, and plus this was not put out to compete with maVen's whatsoever.

This was put out as for people who didnt understand the french subtitles within the group iMPERiAL.

This isnt to compete with maVen's copy people.

6/6/6



Finally a man with sense, I guess it's because there was a time internal meant something these days it means it won't get nuked.

6/7/8

I liked the film then again I liked the first one and the TV movie with Richard Chamberlin in, and the books, so maybe I'm biased.

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pjfan281
Sep 2003

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quote:
Originally posted by eighty5


This isnt to compete with maVen's copy people.






you new? =P

come on, wake up, they specifically make mention of mavens copy in their nfo for crying out loud! not only do they mention it, but they imply maven's copy is unwatchable b/c the sub issue causes you to miss "a significant part of the movie" which is totally untrue. when you internal and point out the shortcomings of other releases, you ARE competing with that group AND trying to win credits on sites. plain and simple. so now if they can point of maven's "problems" dont bitch at people for pointing out theirs. any release is subject to criticism/anaysis. that is what helps people decide what to get. every opinion is valid.

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popabook
Feb 2002

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6/4/8

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Jonas
Dec 2002


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From VcdQ FAQ

INTERNAL -
An internal release is done for several reasons. Classic DVD groups do a lot of .INTERNAL. releases, as they wont be dupe'd on it. Also lower quality theater rips are done INTERNAL so not to lower the reputation of the group, or due to the amount of rips done already. An INTERNAL release is available as normal on the groups affiliate sites, but they can't be traded to other sites without request from the site ops. Some INTERNAL releases still trickle down to IRC/Newsgroups, it usually depends on the title and the popularity. Earlier in the year people referred to Centropy going "internal". This meant the group were only releasing the movies to their members and site ops. This is in a different context to the usual.

Thats a perfect definition of the internal tag as i see it.

As for this release just your average run of the mill ts 6/6/8

Props to imperial for bringing a release with eng subs for the nit-pickers.

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dark101
Sep 2003

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Subititles

Is there any way to just extract the subtitles from the video stream and re-add them to a dif video source?

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Miller
Jul 2004


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well nice internal rls. picture quality is not as nice as good maven's and the sound on this rls kinda sucks. but no more french sub's which is nice. if you can't follow the movie with a Few French sub's then get this rls if not watch maVen's Rls

6/6/7

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Re: Subititles

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Is there any way to just extract the subtitles from the video stream and re-add them to a dif video source?


The problem with that is, the subs are part of the actual film. It's not like a DVD that has different subs that you can turn on and off, what was on the screen was captured.

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Re: Subititles

quote:
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Is there any way to just extract the subtitles from the video stream and re-add them to a dif video source?



no.

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mafioso
Apr 2002


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Question Not Competing with maVen

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you new? =P

come on, wake up, they specifically make mention of mavens copy in their nfo for crying out loud! not only do they mention it, but they imply maven's copy is unwatchable b/c the sub issue causes you to miss "a significant part of the movie" which is totally untrue. when you internal and point out the shortcomings of other releases, you ARE competing with that group AND trying to win credits on sites. plain and simple. so now if they can point of maven's "problems" dont bitch at people for pointing out theirs. any release is subject to criticism/anaysis. that is what helps people decide what to get. every opinion is valid.



I was starting to wonder if anyone else ACTUALLY read the nfo

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navi
Jul 2004


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Not bad but have seen better.

5/5/7 ^_^

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BLUE-NEO
Jan 2004


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review from full release, and from actually having full release and not a sample.

From cd1-cd2 the sound kicks in about 1 sec late from the universal intro. The video is nice. A little too much red but can be adjusted on t.v. The picture is just as good as Maven's version and the audio is very nice. Nice and clear. The subs and screen is very crisp and readable...could use a little more bass but overall sound is great. I'd rate it high..and should have been a proper not an internal.

8/8/9 good sequel.

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php
Nov 2003

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extremely good video. haven't seen such a good TS video in years. looks rather like a dvd screener than a TS. 10 for video

audio quality is low. low volume+it sounds very hollow, at some points it's very hard to understand. 4 for audio

movie itself is extremely boring and stupid. standard hollywood crap, nothing special. you've got some rogue agents and some good ones, some people shoot at each other, the evil guys are dead or in custody, movie is over. no mystery, no surprises. I've known from the very start who the mole was and it turned out I was right. 3 for the movie.

btw, the alleged russian or west european characters in hollywood movies always speak broken language with incredibly thick American English accent. And this movie is no exception. Most allegedly russian characters are in fact morons from the US whose abilities to speak foreign languages are highly questionable. My ears fell off when I heard them speak russian

another btw - what's this quarrel about subs all about? this release doesn't provide subs for all foreign parts either - like when Matt Damon speaks on the phone with german hotels it's not translated. and the russian and german newspapers he reads on the net are not translated either (i.e., no subs for them). So either you can speak german and russian or you're phucked, no matter what release of the movie you get.

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Some people on this forum simple amaze me. I guess a few of you dont know what INTERNAL means.

It means it was made for the group, Internally, and isnt suppose to be available for everyone to download, and plus this was not put out to compete with maVen's whatsoever.

This was put out as for people who didnt understand the french subtitles within the group iMPERiAL.

This isnt to compete with maVen's copy people.
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you are such a pedant. what the hell do we care whether a release is internal or not? Maybe to you movie releases are of academic interest only, but most of us actually want to watch the movie. Just because it's internal we are not allowed to discuss the quality or to compare it to other releases? This is just stupid.

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infinityfsp20
Jan 2004

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I see dont know why people are complaining, if it was not internal then i would understand, but it is. Its a fine release if you want english subs. Obviously not as good as maVen's but its your choice.

6/7/x

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CARLlTOS
Jul 2004


The best game ever

The picture is pretty good. but the sound is not that good.
The movie though is good.
7/6/10

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