lo.pro
Mar 2002
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how much is missing in the cut part: 26 seconds. in my opinion there is nothing missing that will cause you to not understand what's going on etc.
as for why it's cut, my understanding is that there was neither audio nor video during that 26 seconds, so rather than have ppl look at a black screen, and assume it was fucked & shut it off, it was cut. i have it on pretty good authority that it was a source problem... and for anyone who thinks that such things don't occasionally get sent out by studios like that, in certain circumstances, well... you can continue to think that if you'd like.
as for the other (very minor) audio glitches, perhaps it hasn't occurred to anyone that there may be other non-ideal circumstances which can create problems for a release, that have little or nothing to do with the encoder or the group. sitting at home with your store-bought dvd or vhs tape, and playing around with your comp until you produce something that looks decent, most ppl then strut around thinking that if THEY were the encoder of these releases, that things would be done RIGHT. well, i doubt it's like that in a case like this, and also it takes a LOT more time, i'd imagine, to organize all of the things that it takes to get a release like this to ppl, and encoding is just one of them. deep down you know this, because otherwise you'd be out releaseing the shit yourself.
so don't bitch. the release is the best to date, and i'm sure that the ppl who work hard to bring it to you are somewhat bummed when they look to see what ppl are saying about it and they hear a bunch of shit about how they are mislabelling idiots etc (despite their having clearly labelled it a workprint & having been very upfront about the various problems associated with the release). there is a major group that caters to those who want a perfect release every time, with no fuckups and all the options: it's called the MPAA, if their product is the one you're looking for, then by all means wait for their "proper" release in a few months or more.
as for the credits, well, of course everyone prefers to have them, but they are not essential, and so if for some reason or another it's not convenient to include them, it's certainly not going to stop a group from releasing the movie, or cause them to take the time to do a complete re-encode or something. i'd imagine some of them have lives, too :P
as for those who support the group, and thank them for their hard work, i'm sure that their comments are appreciated, even if they're not always told that 
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TCF, thanks!!
08-06-2002 05:28 AM
