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THE_EVOLUTiON
Oct 2004


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Cute release, good to see these high quality releases in these troubles times.

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nakid
Aug 2004

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quote:
Originally posted by dark101
Just wonderin why no more jpgs?


So you FEDS can't see what the movies look like, to target the groups .. LOL.. jk

Movie looks good nice screener Legacy

9/9/8

enjoyable and very funny flix

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Mr_Grinch
Nov 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by mattmatt02
errr, its a dvdscr. its better than a centropy ts!

10/10/6



Bless ya. Nothing's better than a centopy ts.

And this release should be compared to other dvd screeners, as such there's no way the video and audio should hit a ten. Only so so encoding on this 'un.

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geoffbob30
Mar 2005


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can anyone confirm this has no black and white scenes and no scrollers its just that i`ve got the tc and if its got black and white scenes and scrollers i`ll keep that one i didn`t notice any in the sample but that don`t mean nothing

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Dodgy Del
Aug 2004


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this is really good quality here and very quick for a dvd screener. this is the one to get till retail

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bcool2k
Feb 2004

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at first glance this sample didnt look so bad. Unfortunately after seeing the source DVDR that FCR put out. It is very easy to see why this release was NUKED for squished pic and bad ar. This release has a very tiny horizontal to vertical ratio. Squished is an understatement. The audio is very good. And I found the movie to be more enjoyable than most i guess.

7.5/8/8



The DVDR by FCR is the best comparison.

Correct Aspect Ratio and Excellent sound

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Hairyhamster
Jul 2004


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can anyone confirm this has no black and white scenes and no scrollers its just that i`ve got the tc and if its got black and white scenes and scrollers i`ll keep that one i didn`t notice any in the sample but that don`t mean nothing



IVE FLICKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND IVE SEEN NOTHING

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Mar 2005


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quote:
IVE FLICKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND IVE SEEN NOTHING




cheers for that

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Nov 2003


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Sep 2003


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bcool2k
Feb 2004

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::You're an idiot.

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Sep 2003


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CoNS
Jul 2005

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I can confirm that fortuyn is right about this one: The source for this release is in fact a mislabelled telecine copy, and not a dvdscreener. Same goes for the XviD release by LEGACY and the DVDR release by FCR, which originate from the same source.

The release has all of the characteristics of a telecine copy. Most remarkably it has the distinct occasional "cigarette burns" (reel burns) in the upper right corner (screenshot). So shut up, bcool2k, and quit the flaming.

It also has quite many video artefacts, i.e. dust, dirt or scratches which were transferred from the film reel in the telecine process (examples here and here).

Also, it's PAL as all telecine copies are, whereas most dvdscreeners are NTSC. And it has no warnings, "property of..." messages, black and white scenes etc., like almost all dvdscreeners do.

However, props to the ppl who made this telecine source for mixing the audio stream nicely in sync with the video, unlike many other telecine releases. On the other hand they somehow screwed up when transferring the video. The telecine source has a very annoying "motion blur" throughout the whole movie. It shows whenever there's high speed motion in the picture (examples here and here).

All in all, the release is a rather high quality telecine copy, but nonetheless it's still a "raw" telecine copy, which has not been digitally remastered by the film studio. It hasn't been released by the film studio (Fox), and it has never been intended as a dvdscreener. My guess is that the source come from a bootleg DVD "factory" located in Asia or Eastern Europe or Russia that create PDVDs for the bootleg market.



Same story as all widescreen "DVDSCR" releases by TEG-DVD and TEG-VCD and many "DVDSCR" releases by MoF, too. Read more here. That page also has a lot of background info about the telecine process and dvdscreeners in general.

Now, why do I care in the first place? Well, I'm picky about the quality of movie releases, and I want to know what I'm getting, before spending time and bandwidth on a release. And I get pissed off when I download a movie only to find out that the scene group has tried to sneak a telecine copy through as a dvdscreener. I might aswell have downloaded the correctly labeled telecine SVCD release by TUN instead, which was out a month before this one (released by METEOR as DVDR).

Also, mislabelled "DVDSCR" releases like this one make it impossible for other scene groups to release real dvdscreener copies of the same movie, due to the scene rules. If the scam is not revealed and the release is nuked for mislabelling at the distro sites, that is!

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Feb 2004

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brave1200
Jul 2005

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10/10/6

I didn't watch this release, but I scanned through it, looking for some B&W scenes or copyright messages, but I couldn't find any!

This might as well be considered a DVDrip.
Perfect quality!

The movie itself was just okay for me.

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fortuyn
Sep 2003


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President Fortuyn still rules!

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Dwaggy
Sep 2001


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shut the fuck up people and just rate the fucking release

fuck!

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jeffmd
Jul 2005

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I liked it.. there was a bad smear in like 5 scenes, like where theres alot of solid color (the seat backings in the car) but otherwise, looks like a quality dvd screener. I also actually enjoyed the movie. I was hoping it would be a mix between comedy and action just like true lies, and it was rather spot on. Sound had hiss, like it was using some low grade conversion equipment, but never lost synch.

8/7/7

note: I downloaded the dvdr, and all signs say its region free, and I even burnt a region 1, but my stand alone dvd player says it can't play because of area restrictions. Guess because it's PAL? Never had a screener problem like this before.

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CCkid
Nov 2004


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Nice pic, clear strong sound. Only gets a 7 because Jolie has sexy lips and makes any movie a 7+ otherwise it would be a 5 or less


9/9/7

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fiendworld
Jun 2005

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me & the wife watched this last night..

GREAT QUALITY

a- 9
v- 9.5
m- 6.5/7

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