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GPhil
Dec 2004

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Heyhey!

Look inside the NFO:

Release Date: 02/05/06

Where are these guys from??? Asia or what?

Greetings GPhil

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Redemption1980
Jul 2004


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http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...screener6js.jpg
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...screener4bz.jpg

Better video and sound than the DVL version, and looks to be a different source than the Screener, so nukers got it wrong again, but whether this is retail or not, no idea, guess we wont know till a DVDR appears.

9/10/?

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Dec 2005

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The idiocy of some people is unbelievable, it's almost shocking the level of intelligence some people are in possession of.


http://www.shrani.si/pics/dvdscr1259257.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/pics/dvdrip1259255.jpg

http://www.shrani.si/pics/dvdscr2259258.jpg
http://www.shrani.si/pics/dvdrip2259256.jpg

If you can't see the difference here I really suggest you all book an appointment at the local opticians.

1. Maybe this is a different Screener source, a completely clean one and are trying to pass it off as a retail.

2. Maybe this is retail, even though the release date isn't for a while.

Whatever it is, whoever is in charge of Nuking releases needs to pull their thumb out fo their ass and do some real work.

Video - 9
Audio - 8
Film - 8

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chiv
Dec 2003

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nice one, thanx for that, bout time someone posted those so that we could shut up all those whiners... glad i made the right choice in going with this one... better video, SUPREME AUDIO! cant wait to watch it tomorrow night.

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Jul 2005

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It was def not DVL source, anyone who bothered to get the release could tell.

Well done Chiv and Redemption for proving this.

Video 9
Audio 10
Movie 10

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Video: 7
Sound: 9
Movie: 8

Video is a bit soft and the compression is not that great considering its on 3CDs, but its not bad either. It's not cropped or zoomed in as some people say.

Sound is great as its 5.1.

Movie was pretty good, length could have been edited a bit, but its enjoyable.

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Jun 2004


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they would have saved a lot of hassle if they just released the friggin DVDR

this as a dvdrip

9/9/?

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toddler
Jan 2006

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I'm normally one for following the rules, but i do think AC3 is under-rated or something.

I have HDTV and 6 Channel Audio setup. I do prefer movies in Higher resolution and i simply love AC3 and DTS. Using mp3 simply does not compare, i believe the scene should allow for rippers that focus on ac3.

Hell, if i find DTS, and Hi-def sources, i usually go with those instead, upto 4 CDs is ok for me (Saving private ryan DTS), quality before anything else.

Rating

7/10/8
Video could be sharper/cleaner,
AC3 is as perfect as usual,
Movie is very good by any standard.

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Oct 2005

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If its a dvdrip, i wished they would of released it as dvd9, or two dvd5's. Otherwise converting the xvid's to dvd format is some what lengthy.

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Jun 2005

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removed to keep people from getting me banned... and to stop the repeditive bashing of my comment..

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quote:
Originally posted by sirmonkey
if they arnt chopped then why have all the pictures ive seen posted.. the dvdrip picture looks narrower then the dvd screener..
even on the first dvd screener image.. the text is cut.. if you take poth pictures put them side by side.. the dvdrip picture is cut just above where that text would be.. unless some one can learn how to freakin take pictures that are the same size.. your waste your time.. i still say this is from the dvd screener..



I've got to agree with this.

All the so called "comparison" grabs proving it has not cropped ... the image without the text is clearly thinner than the image with the text IMO.

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Feb 2006

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Sirmonkey, I'm sorry, but your'e argument is plainly flawed. You arent taking into account the fact that the DVDrip is in fact encoded at a slightly lower resolution - 608x256.
The DVDscr is encoded at 624x272, which as im sure you can see is 16 pixels taller a picture, which accounts for the DVDrip screenshots being smaller.
When looking to see if the picture has been cropped, dont look at the size of the picture, look at the details in the picture. When you do that, you will see that there is no cropping at all, in fact, the DVDrip shows a bit more picture to the right and left.

In regards to this rip, quality looks pretty good, i may have no idea where they got this from, but it most certainly is a clean dvd source.
9/9/9ish

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Sep 2003

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I doubt this is retail (how could it be, there's not even a set date for the retail release of this major blockbuster), probably just a cleaned up russian tc/bootleg, hehehe.

Best animation for a big gorilla ever btw . Mighty Joe Young is the next, but that's hilariously bad in comparison :P . Notch up another award for the sfx people.

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quote:
Originally posted by sirmonkey
if they arnt chopped then why have all the pictures ive seen posted.. the dvdrip picture looks narrower then the dvd screener..
even on the first dvd screener image.. the text is cut.. if you take poth pictures put them side by side.. the dvdrip picture is cut just above where that text would be.. unless some one can learn how to freakin take pictures that are the same size.. your waste your time.. i still say this is from the dvd screener..



You're missing the point, those images show exactly the same footage, no image difference, they both show the exact same details in each screen - one has a scroller and the other doesn't.

Your whining about screen capture size, get some balls and brain.

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Redemption1980
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quote:
Originally posted by sirmonkey
if they arnt chopped then why have all the pictures ive seen posted.. the dvdrip picture looks narrower then the dvd screener..
even on the first dvd screener image.. the text is cut.. if you take poth pictures put them side by side.. the dvdrip picture is cut just above where that text would be.. unless some one can learn how to freakin take pictures that are the same size.. your waste your time.. i still say this is from the dvd screener..



This and the Screener have different resolutions, so the pics will be different sizes, you could resize them both to the same size, but thats a pain in the arse to do when your just wanting to do a quick comparison, and can lose a bit of quality.

This isnt from the DVD Screener, though i doubt its retail, im thinking another Screener floating about.

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Dec 2005

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this was nuked for being oversized, not for lying about its source. so why all the tripping about it being nuked?
it does break the oversized rule, and rules are rules, so its rightfully nuked.

v: 9
a: 9
f: 10

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Jan 2006

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Thumbs down

Does that version possess those sentences in the image?

http://www.shrani.si/pics/dvdscr2259258.jpg

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Feb 2006

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NOT CROPPED

For all who think the picture is cropped beacuase of the text... Well, IT IS NOT. The screening text depending on the movie is at the bottom of the screen or between screen and black bars. Original MPEG2 ready for encoding is in most cases in 4:3 format. From that field the actuall screen field is cut and then encoded. If there is screening text is it automatically cropped but THE TEXT ONLY. Movie window is untouched.
People who do encoding know what I mean.

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chiv
Dec 2003

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quote:
Originally posted by FrightfoO
[B]I doubt this is retail (how could it be, there's not even a set date for the retail release of this major blockbuster), probably just a cleaned up russian tc/bootleg, hehehe.


oh come on now, its definately not a tc... please...

its an unmarked dvdscr... i think it should be nuked, because 'dvdrip' to me, means retail, which this IS NOT - i can see certain scenes where the image seems to shift, almost like its degrading or having some other problem (cd3, zoom in on kong face, is an example of this) - it is NOT a retail dvd source, so for THIS reason it should be nuked, NOT for any cropping reasons...

and vcdq's new 'upgraded' nuke of oversized is a bit silly... yes groups should stick to rules, but what good are rules if they will be severely detrimental to the quality of the release? you say what good are rules if noone follows then, i ask what good are rules when, in some cases, they severly damage the quality of the film being released. i believe the rules should be followed, but in some extreme cases should be bent, and this is definately one of those times... no 5.1 on a movie like this and only 2 cds? why bother releasing the film at all then...

and re: picture size 'questions' as stated this is due to a lower resolution, and a 'less accurate, but more widely used' ar of 2.375... the 'dvdscr' release had a SLIGHTLY different resolution. check the pictures posted, for the last time, there has been no overcropping! if anything, as i said before, the dvdscr was the rlz that was overcropped on the sides

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i couldnt give a wank about oversizing, if you burn/convert xvid movies to dvd like me then the more oversizing the better.

v 10 (retail or not, why the fuck am i gonna bother upgrading an unmarked screener to the real retail rip? answer: im not. this is a perfect xvid imo and nothing less)

a 10 (5.1, whats wrong with that)

m 9.5 (it dragged a bit at parts but what 3 hour film doesnt? this is an excellent flick)


thanks GOD for this clean rip, and the best yet. and the 'more to come' comment in your NFO sounds very interesting!

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