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madd
Nov 2008


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quote:
Originally posted by bartleby
That bit is pretty fucking retarded. Corporal punishment ? I think time has proven that's not the right way to go about things, what with all the false arrests and people who've been sent to prison for crimes they didn't commit.


"in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed."

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Fuckmonkey
Jan 2009


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DNA evidence isn't conclusive proof - not enough to enact a death sentence, as is the same with being caught red handed - that's pretty subjective to the person doing the catching.

It's another way of saying "lynch mobs".

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Avenue_1
Apr 2008


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Originally posted by Fuckmonkey
DNA evidence isn't conclusive proof - not enough to enact a death sentence, as is the same with being caught red handed - that's pretty subjective to the person doing the catching.

It's another way of saying "lynch mobs".



So using your train of thought, everyone is possibly innocent and no ones guilt can ever be proved beyond dispute?

And how is it another way of saying "lynch mobs"?

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bartleby
Jul 2005


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Originally posted by madd
"in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed."


Like fuckmonkey said DNA is'nt conclusive proof , and the DNA bit only applies to Capital punishment. Also whats to stop 15 year old Sally lying about her age and having sex with 20 year old Joe technically making him a Peadophile , does he deserve to die for that ?

Corporal punishment would proberly be for the judge or police to decide and it's fucking barbaric , it does'nt belong in a civalised society. It would also have to be implied to all law... so if a child steals/ Or finds a stolen bicycle he deserves a fucking beating ? In that case why not just let the public take matters into their own hands and deal the "justice" out theirself ?

Like I said their stance on Crime and Punishment is retarded and about 300 years out of date.

Some of thier policies may be good but they're let down by their blatant racist , backward thinking.

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gezzer
Dec 2005


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So we have established that they will turn the police into the Gestapo and do a bit of ethnic cleansing other than that what other policies do they have?

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David Cameron
Nov 2005


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I would 100% agree with a BNP'esque party. Their policies are good, but just looking at their supporters and knowing how politics work, their published policies are watered down versions of what their real ideal is. I didn't read the actual policies, i'm too lazy but i'm betting 'whites only' isn't among them and that is what a lot of their supporters believe in now. Some of you may be old enough to remember 'The National Front', that used to suck in most of the nutters but since the government started arresting people simply for joining that party the closest thing the nutters have available to them is the BNP.

I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is. Socialist Labour party members may be laughed at but they aren't labelled as criminal and no public sector worker is banned from being a member of them and they are equally extreme in their beliefs as the BNP are.

It doesn't really matter what you think now, this country has gone down the pan again, its happened before it will happen again. It was called the Brain Drain last time, dunno what it'll be called this time but sure enough anyone with any intelligence and ambition will flee this fucking country as fast as they can.

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Feb 2009


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Nope, i think most of us would prefer to kick the illegal and non working immigrants and their "PC" supporters out.

Just out of interest, and this goes for everyone that is seemingly anti-bnp. Which of their policies do you not agree with?



my grandad fought these people in the second world war ffs c18

heres a few of your m8s avenue



big fag sam and johnny and i think that might be you behind the gluebag avenue

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Apr 2008


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my grandad fought these people in the second world war ffs c18




Your granda fought C18 in the 2nd world war??? Is that you on the timebond?

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Feb 2009


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Your granda fought C18 in the 2nd world war??? Is that you on the timebond?


lol evostick..naw my point being c18 ie as you know 18 stands for ah ie adolf hitler,for the life of me i cant understand how anyone who knows how evil and wrong hitler was would even be assosiated with these type of people who have links and look upto adolf for example the BNP

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lol evostick..naw my point being c18 ie as you know 18 stands for ah ie adolf hitler,for the life of me i cant understand how anyone who knows how evil and wrong hitler was would even be assosiated with these type of people who have links and look upto adolf for example the BNP


I don't support the BNP.
Don't know that much about them tbh as they aren't an electable party over here (although they're trying to drum up support) ,but the policies i have read are common sense, most of which i would like to see being taken on board by the "mainstream" parties.

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Feb 2009


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I don't support the BNP.
Don't know that much about them tbh as they aren't an electable party over here (although they're trying to drum up support) ,but the policies i have read are common sense, most of which i would like to see being taken on board by the "mainstream" parties.



ok 1st thing on their webpage is british jobs for british workers...now as a capitalist society(im a socialist btw) if im a boss i will put out my business to tender to get best price.if the winning tender brings over a boat full of itilians that will work cheaper then tough thats business..

2nd.On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

tough WE have been immigrating to other countries also ,the funny thing is most people say that the uk is getting filled with immigrants and they are sick of it BUT they also say they will immigrate outta the uk because of this lmfao ohh the irony


obviously the majority of their policies are easy on the eye they have to be,you look at the manifestos of all parties and id say they are all basically the same..

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David Cameron
Nov 2005


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To think of Combat18 as the same as the BNP is just as ignorant as considering all muslims terrorists.

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Feb 2009


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quote:
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To think of Combat18 as the same as the BNP is just as ignorant as considering all muslims terrorists.


well you go to links section and follow the trail

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gezzer
Dec 2005


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quote:
Originally posted by Jingofin


I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is. Socialist Labour party members may be laughed at but they aren't labelled as criminal and no public sector worker is banned from being a member of them and they are equally extreme in their beliefs as the BNP are.


You ain't wrong,I agree completely with not banning any political party, everyone no matter how extreme or lame has a right to air their views,that's how freedom works.As is our right to disagree with someone else's views. In my youth I used to belong to the socialist worker party until I realized what a bunch of head cases they were.

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Fuckmonkey
Jan 2009


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This is true, they're all a bit screwy. Point is BNP work hard to look as if they're normal where the others just get on with their agenda.

The amount of people who have been "expelled" from BNP and the amount of times they have been exposed through undercover filming shows that while they know how to push the buttons of the public they're clearly not "proud" enough to make their entire catalog of ideas known.

I'd go on record as saying I hate what C18 stand for, but I respect them for being honest about what they want and how they'd get it - as such I wouldn't piss on them after I'd set them on fire. BNP however are just too slimy for me to have any respect for them; and that's after we've suffered this god-awful Labour government too!

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wosp
Dec 2008


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I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

... and I mean British, not "I have a British passport" and was born here people.

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Fuckmonkey
Jan 2009


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quote:
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I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.


Of course they do, how else would they get votes. Most British people aren't inclined to kick in the doors of "the darkies down the road" and smack their heads in with baseball bats though.

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bartleby
Jul 2005


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quote:
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I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.

... and I mean British, not "I have a British passport" and was born here people.



If they have a british passport and were born here , would'nt that make them british ?

Why not just stop beating round the bush and say "whites".

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Fionn McCool
Mar 2005


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quote:
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I hate half their members but I still think the party has a legitamate right to exist and any attempt to ban them is proof of how hypocritical the left leaning system we have today is.



Of course they have a right to exist but lol at their supporters and anyone who is convinced by their populist rhetoric and policies on their homepage. Also censorship is equally prevalent on the right.

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Fionn McCool
Mar 2005


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quote:
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I think the BNP just say what most British people are thinking.



I doubt you could call 4% of the British electorate "most British people."

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