Must be a lot of babies here since everybody complains.

You can all sit and watch a telesynch without crying but then when it comes a dvd scr or rip in svcd you all cry like a 1 year old.

When the audio is not in the right format(224).

It cant be that many players who cant handle 192 or other off bitrate or hz audio.

So if a group wants to do it in 192 or whatever its their choice.

You choice is to download or not and not act like a 2 year old who screams in a supermarket when you dont get any candy.

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saw some person posted they're putting up a repack. will they have space on the disks to fit in the extra bits or will they have to encode it all over again? Seems like a waste of time if they have to re-encode.

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Originally posted by vorbis
saw some person posted they're putting up a repack. will they have space on the disks to fit in the extra bits or will they have to encode it all over again? Seems like a waste of time if they have to re-encode.

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that's stupid
because if that's teh case, its hte players fault, because SVCD allows 32-320kbit audio, and 192kbit is legit.

I just don't see any difference between 192 and 224 quality wise... i mean, ac3 is 192 for 2ch on all dvd's so what's the big deal...

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Well enough of all of this bickering which is stupid anyways, 90% of the users on this forum don't even know about scene standards but all of your prayers of this movie have been answered:

Download My.Big.Fat.Greek.Wedding.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD-KSiVCD (5 pass VBR) if you player can handle 192kbit mpeg audio.

Download My.Big.Fat.Greek.Wedding.PROPER.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD-TCF (3 pass VBR) for a fully complaint rip (available a few hours after)

OR Download My.Big.Fat.Greek.Wedding.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD.REPACK-KSiVCD (4 pass VBR [dupe, why lower the amount of passes if you had all the time in the world to repack after a proper was available]) for a fully compliant rip (available an hour ago)

All rips look identical, non action film at 2100+ video bitrate so the amount of passes don't really improve quality that much, each pass is like a motion detection filter to reduce pixelation and blocks... less motion, less improvement even with more passes (this movie isn't worth 3 rips imo, hope someone doesn't do a 5pass proper repack lol)

For those that don't know, if I can remember correctly the scene standards are:
480x480 res (NTSC) 480x576 (PAL)
224kbit audio
2+ passes VBR (anything over 5-6 passes can not be detected with the human eye, unless you're superman)
max bitrate shouldn't exceed 2520, total bitrate should be below 2700/2800 or something.
118-120mins on 2CD
must be bin/cue

if you don't know now you know, if releasing anything below 224kbit is ok than all groups should release films at 128-192kbit to save more bitrate for video, just my 2 cents.

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that repack is a waste of time IMO. some places nuked the first for 192kbit audio, and places will probably nuke the repack for being a dupe of TCF. I don't see many people wasting their time with it.

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Actually... they were both nukes, ksi's because of audio and tcf's because only 3 passes. So the repack is the only one that follows the "scene's" standards. And again... we will get the next one right! :-)

Here are the Scene Guidlines in case any one is interested

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³ The SVCD Releasing Standards 2002 ³
³ ³
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³ ÀÄÄÄ[ RELEASE RULES ]ÄÄÄÙ ³
³ ³
³ PROPERS: ³
³ ³
³ - No previous releases may be propered based on audio or video bitrate. ³
³ - Propers will be allowed in the case of technical problems, bad aspect ³
³ ratio, sync problems, skipping/freezing, interlaced, bad ivtc, etc ³
³ ³
³ VIDEO: ³
³ ³
³ - Must be at least 1750kbit average, with a maximum of 2450kbit. ³
³ - TMPGENC: 2 pass minimum ³
³ - CCE: 4 pass minimum ³
³ - Menus allowed. (see notes) ³
³ - Subtitles allowed (and encouraged for foreign releases) ³
³ ³
³ AUDIO: ³
³ ³
³ - Minimum 224kbit @ 44.1khz (regardless of source) ³
³ - Secondary tracks shall be 224 or LESS ³
³ ³
³ PACKAGING: ³
³ ³
³ - All releases must be BIN/CUE. (remove path from cue files) ³
³ - Must be packed with RAR, compression is NOT ALLOWED ³
³ and broken into 15 or 20 MB volumes ³
³ - Recovery record recommended. ³
³ - Must have SFV ³
³ - Must have NFO ³
³ - NFO MUST INCLUDE: ³
³ Group name ³
³ Title ³
³ Actual SVCD release date ³
³ DVD release date ³
³ US theater release date ³
³ Audio bitrate ³
³ Video minimum/average/maximum bitrate ³
³ Movie runtime/length ³
³ IMDB/adultdvdempire link ³
³ Number of rars per cd (eg. 44x15MB) ³
³ ³
³ SAMPLES: ³
³ ³
³ - REQUIRED ³
³ - Minimum 30 seconds, maximum 1 full minute in length and in separate ³
³ folder marked 'SAMPLE'. ³
³ - MUST be taken from the movie - NOT encoded separately. ³
³ ³
³ DIRECTORY NAMING: ³
³ ³
³ - Directory names shall NOT exceed 64 characters. ³
³ - All releases are to include production year. ³
³ - DO NOT indicate Ripping method (CBR/VBR/CCE/TMPGENC and so on), ³
³ WS (widescreen), DVD/SVCD release DATE, GENRE or anything else ³
³ in the directory name (ONLY within the NFO). ³
³ - Acceptable characters in naming a directory include (NO spaces or ³
³ double dots - single dots or underscores ONLY): ³
³ ³
³ ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXY
Z ³
³ abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy
z ³
³ 0123456789 . -_ ³
³ ³
³ - All Release directories, regardless of year, shall be named ³
³ according to Movie.Name.Year.Source.Codec-Group ³
³ (i.e. Movie.Name.Year.DVDRip.SVCD-Group) ³
³ ³
³ - Releases that are more than 1 CD will follow these specs: ³
³ - MUST be named CD1, CD2, CD3 and so on. ('disc1', etc will NOT ³
³ be allowed). ³
³ - There MUST be a SFV included for each CD. ³

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i dont believe the guidelines above are enforced, but are just one of a few guidelines that have been published. to be honest, for a guidelines set, thats very lacking in detail. the other set are from the SVCD Council, and again is not enforced.. but they go into more detail. that just seems a copy of TDX that took 10 mins to write.

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TCF's was 3 pass, but doesn't say if they used TMpeg or CCE, and they normally used TMPeg, don't they? I'm not sure... is there something like EncSpot for mpgs?

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why isn't the info on KSi rls of an XviD DVD SCR of this movie up?
just wondering...

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