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Truman
Mar 2002

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my site usually only lets the best version for D/L anything else gets nuked and in this case .........CTP wins the trophy.. nice rls thx ........ sory phucker got to say this CTP wot about a rls of blade2???

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WHEN ARE SOME OF YOU GUYS GOING LEARN THAT THE VOTES DONT MATTER I FUCK AROUND WITH THEM ALL THE TIME.

and all u ftf guys like skippy i dont give a shit that u release stuff fast i would much rather have a ctp release even if it came out a lil later and how you going proper a ctp by making it worst
just fucking take your time so ur rips can be good quality
dont hand us out shit
ts's are bad enough i dont want them to look even worst

Every one put a -1- in ur post if u agree with me cause ftf thinks we dont care about quality according to a ripper tko and slippy

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both

FTF rls has slightly lower quality video and lower quality audio. But the WS is a big plus. The CTP release still comes out on top I'm afraid. I have both releases, and I'm not just judging on the sample or the jpegs.

FTF, i must give you guys major props. You're getting a lot better. In time I see raise of quality, and you release the fastest...it sounds weird saying it, but FTF just might come out on top...

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Every one put a -1- in ur post if u agree with me cause ftf thinks we dont care about quality according to a ripper tko and slippy



ohh my son, first off who the hell is slippy?? and secondly if we didnt care about quality we would had never improved. if you notice our older release they were much worst quality, we were known for quick releases. NOW we want to be known for quality, quick and plenty releases... like i said in the channel, we are getting better and better and we will continue to get better while being the first to release... as prob 95% of you agree deep inside this release is very watchable and of good quality, but most of ya are mad cuase we proper ctp. this is why...

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Originally posted by misfits138
i hope another group like teg or tmm release this movie...my apex play pal movies out of sync


quote:
Originally posted by FrAzZmAN
what the fuck is it with this group, the picture quality is perfect for a telesync but the sound is really average, the biggest issue here is the Aspect Ratio, it is totally off. If they left the bloody thing as FS it would be FINE, but they try and squash into semi wide screen making everything look sqaushed, if you re-encode it using a correct AR like 4:3NTSC fs stretching the image back to rmeove the black bars then the AR is correct, why make FS shitty WS?


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Originally posted by cadillact
Out Of Sync !!!

I only have problems with a few of all ctp releases that I actually download and I have only converted one to ntsc when it was too bad. In this case it might be better to download the FTF version since they release in NTSC.

I have a lot of pal vcd movies and its only ctp that gives me problem somtimes. I dont know what software they use to get it to vcd format since the other groups doesnt have that problem.

CTP are not bad but they are doing something wrong when they get it to cd in vcd format.



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Originally posted by cosmic
nice TS rls, movie played fine in my stand-alone.
too bad, the AR was wrong.



and heres a couple form the previous release... which i was gonna proper aswell.


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Originally posted by misfits138
i have a problem...every time i burn a centrophy release to vcd the sound and video are out of sync...it happend with not another teen movie,lord of the rings,orange county,and col damage.this doesnt happen with any other group releases only centrophy...how do i fix it?
i have an apex 5131 dvd player.



quote:
Originally posted by naked_eye
Hmm... I take that back, just tried We were soldiers on my Apex 5131 and audio is out of sync about 5 minutes in.


quote:
Originally posted by zcar
my audio is out of sync too on a reoc a5
sampo clone
zcar



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hey man i know how you feel all mine seems to be the same way too on daewoo dvd plaer too it pisses me off only on centerpy releases it funny as hell that i only on there releases. i wish we could figure out why.



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Originally posted by stevediamond
Thre audio is out of sync on my Wharfdale M5 player, only a fraction,but enough to spoil the movie.


plus a bunch more..

so while some of you dont have a problem, lots of you do.
this proper is for those of you that do have the problem..

and yes as long as they have the problem, we will proper even if no-one else in the scene has the balls to do it!!!

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aaa

First off i aint Ftf man i am a person who understands the hard work it takes to realse a movie for you guys so unless you relly knwo who i am shut up and respect the fact they worked hard to bring u this movie

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Where the heck do i get .cue files for this thing?


lol

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well tko i thought that is what u said to me in that channel before
when i said u should take ur time when encoding the movie

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how can u ftf try to proper centropy?

CTP IS THE BEST OF THE BEST!

cant u try to beat TMMVC, TEG-VCD or something like that first?
lol

this realese isnt NEAR the quality of Centropy's..

.. and plz phucker, dont flame me.. u have to admin that ctp's release are better than ftf's... much better..

and i havnt had any problems with any ctp release.. EVER

to all u who have problem: Buy some good equipment!!

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pjeer?

ok, im kinda gettin bored reading all this shit now.

CTP don't conform to standards. Ok? its nothing to do with the quality of the player, if i bought a $1000 player it could still have probs with CTPs releases. And its more than likely nothing to dowith a PAL source, if u have a multisync tv, leave the player in PAL mode. Look at the bitrates CTP use. 1246kbit Video, 128kbit audio. Something look odd? yep. they release in XVCD and a lot of players dont fully support this. VCD spec is 1150kbit Video, 224kbit audio. CBR. not VBR.

Im not flaming CTP or anything, cos i play their releases fine, but now u know why their releases look "awesome" for some people, and "lagged" for others. At first I believed FTF should've kept the release internal, now im not so sure. I imagine if 99% of other groups released in non-standard VCD format, they'd be nuked. Centropy have managed to get people to respect them so much this wont happen for them. As i said, i dont care, but whats stoppin everyone else from releasing in XVCD now? then those with Apex and other non-compatable players wont get to see anything properly. Think about it.

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Re: bah

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"any of you pigs move and ill execute every motherfucking last one of you"


scooby snacks! best song ever

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scooby snacks! best song ever



I guess you know thats from pulp fiction, and get the live unplugged radio version that kicks ass!

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SPS yes, ctp release was better than FTF's I'll flame your stupid ass all I want though, the only real reason I prefer any other group over ctp, not becuase quality stinks but they cheat the rules and do xvcd so I can't play them!

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Angry FTF sucks

I'm tired of FTF... why?
because ever since i've been on the VCD scene (since 97'), i've been downloading various vcds... a few of the vcds released by HBO (ftf) ALWAYS claimed to be Telesync... they always looked like shit. Even now, the quality is still junk. All thier releases look like cams... u people seen the ICE.AGE cam? now that's good video for a cam! Compare that to this so called "TS Proper". FTF is just mad cause' CTP beat em' in the release time (not to mention CTP's release is wayyy clearer). Recommended: Centropy... all the rescent releases look like DVDs... (LOTR, RE, etc.). Pretty damn good i must say. Centropy and TEG-VCD have always run the scene, and always will. FTF has been around as long as CTP, (just originally titled HBO), but they always (like today) release shit... sure, they're quick... but when releasers take thier time, they can make a damn good release. And, as usual, FTF tries to flame CTP (because they make better vids). Also, i haven;t noticed ANY sound problems mentioned in FTF's .nfo. Another one of FTF's lies...

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Centropy have released some amazing films but thier audio on 90% of those releases have been less than the video quality. It seems to me that they dont care about the audio as much as the video. I would gladly loose video quality from a centropy release if they put more effort into thier audio.

I got the centropy release of Res Evil and I thought that it was great. the pic quality was good and the sound quality, was better than alot of thier other releases.

I know the time and effort that goes into any rip of any quality so my respect and thanks always goes out to all the groups

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great replay EnemyGlitch, u know what youre talking about... theres alot who dont....

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Good movie, good quality, good pic. Too bad that the great Centropy beat them to the punch Also, its too bad that FTF had to DUPE the rls and call it a proper when they stated that Centropy beat them to the punch by a "couple minutes".

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Good movie, good quality, good pic. Too bad that the great Centropy beat them to the punch Also, its too bad that FTF had to DUPE the rls and call it a proper when they stated that Centropy beat them to the punch by a "couple minutes".


Hey, nice information, but do you have proof?

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I guess you know thats from pulp fiction, and get the live unplugged radio version that kicks ass!


yup... haven't seen it in a while, but is it true that they say that phrase different ways each time it happens? or am i thinking of some movie i haven't seen? (if that makes sense)

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Post thx SPS...

Thanks SPS,
But it is true...
Quality has never, been a virtue (or obviously a care) in FTF's mind when they release. I do understand the time, and effort it takes to make a 1hr.30min movie rip... but still. I wouldn't bother about releasing a low quality version if there was already a better quality one out. And If FTF already knew that CTP had a release, and knew it had better quality, and had time to check out the sound etc, then they should have known that there is no point in releasing this version. Who wants a CAM looking video (all thier releases look VERY blurry), when they can get a higher quality one? And have FTF call it "proper". If it was proper, it'd look better wouldn't it? (From what i've heard, there were no audio problems which FTF stated there were, in the CTP version)

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To coin a frase, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I have seen some suposedly great encodes from groups (FTF and Centropy among them) and some suposedly superior encodes of the same film / TV show by other groups (again, FTF and Centropy among them) and the ones that everyone are raving about are often not that good when you compaire them properly and 90% of the people who are raving about them being good are sheep that havent checked the quality apart from just staring at the screen with speakers blaring or in other cases havent even seen the other encode to be able to make a judgement on it being superior.

If the FTF and the Centropy releases of a film were available to me at the same time and i learned that the FTF release had 20% worse picture quality but the sound wasnt so buzzing or one dimensional as the centropy release then I would gladly get the FTF release and would never look back.

Everyone has thier own views on what makes a good encode and there are enough groups making encodes of the same stuff to fill everyones views so I dont see any problem here

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ok, im kinda gettin bored reading all this shit now.

CTP don't conform to standards. Ok? its nothing to do with the quality of the player, if i bought a $1000 player it could still have probs with CTPs releases. And its more than likely nothing to dowith a PAL source, if u have a multisync tv, leave the player in PAL mode. Look at the bitrates CTP use. 1246kbit Video, 128kbit audio. Something look odd? yep. they release in XVCD and a lot of players dont fully support this. VCD spec is 1150kbit Video, 224kbit audio. CBR. not VBR.

Im not flaming CTP or anything, cos i play their releases fine, but now u know why their releases look "awesome" for some people, and "lagged" for others. At first I believed FTF should've kept the release internal, now im not so sure. I imagine if 99% of other groups released in non-standard VCD format, they'd be nuked. Centropy have managed to get people to respect them so much this wont happen for them. As i said, i dont care, but whats stoppin everyone else from releasing in XVCD now? then those with Apex and other non-compatable players wont get to see anything properly. Think about it.




Thanks for clearing that up- I wish they'd use NORMAL VCD Settings. I only seem to have a probelm with some of thier movies, which is odd but they should be compatible for everyone...

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