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BTW WTF would you release a VCD with a SVCD sample? I really thank you for this nice release but really WTF are you thinking?

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Old Post 01-04-2003 06:56 AM
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Maybe they did the svcd sample for the film cause they wanted to show u what the svcd quality is like and since a lot of you moan about svcd most groups dont do it unless they have a exellent source
Personally i agree with a previous post regardin the quality of the colours is nice and the svcd sample looked better to me,but thats just my opinion,movie itself wasnt that great..

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Talking nice job

watched it all .... they did a nice job on this release, especially for a VCD ....

keep up the good work TcS!

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Old Post 01-04-2003 08:32 AM
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TOP quality, but disappointing movie :o))

Thanks for this release, quality is very good but the movie itself is very disappointing

Keep up the good work TcS ;o)

7/8/4

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Looks good, and the nfo says: 168min runtime! *nice*



Ya, thats why it was pointless to make it 3 CD's when extracting the first CD led out to 394 MEGS!!!!

It boggles my mind why they couldnt fill up the rest of the space.... let alone 3 cds? errrrrr



*The ripper/encoder is an idiot*

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dont bitch about cds in this day and age, just do what i do and get a dvd burner and stick all the mpegs from your rls's on one dvd-r

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Ya, thats why it was pointless to make it 3 CD's when extracting the first CD led out to 394 MEGS!!!!

It boggles my mind why they couldnt fill up the rest of the space.... let alone 3 cds? errrrrr



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hahahaha ... this has to be one of the funniest posts ever made. sorry to dissapoint you, but the only idiot here is you! please do never ever try to talk about things you have less then zero knowledge of. even i know that VCD == MGEP-1 == CBR.
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Video: 1150 kbit/sec MPEG-1 352 x 288 pixels 25 frames/second Audio: 224 kbit/sec MPEG-1 Layer2


now let's do some math: 1150 + 224 == 1374 kbit/s == 172kb/s.
this is a tad higher then the single-speed transfer rate of an audio cd, therefore a 74min cd-r can hold about 70mins of video, while a 80min cd-r can store about 75mins.
now, 168mins/80mins > 2, isn't it? there is no way to "fill up" the cd's like you suggested because it's all CBR - you can't just raise/lower the bitrate without the breaking the VCD-Standard. Therefore it also doesn't really matter if you do 3 CDs with 56 mins each or 2*74mins and one with 20mins only.

sorry about the grammar/spelling/whatever ... english isn't my native language and i was too lazy to re-check the whole post again

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I just watched it... Still one of my favoite films of the year. I still don't know why they sliced off the pop-up consideration watermarks... I swear I could handle it.

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This is an average VHS Screener of a quite good film.

The picture is quite good and the sound is excellent, and since its 168 mins its gotta be 3 CD's, since its 80mins per disc.

SVCD would also be 3 discs as 56minutes per disc isn't too bad for SVCD, and the reason for the SVCD sample is i think TcS are trying to see what people would rather, so the next VHS screener they get a hold of, they will know what people want.

The best thing to do is extract the 3 mpegs and re-enode the sound to a lower bitrate, the diference isnt too noticable and will allow u to cut the mpeg into 2 and put it on 2 CD's.

I dont mind the cost of extra discs, but i dont like changing discs, plus all my DVD covers are for 2 discs.

edit:nikelrah a 74 min CD hold 74minutes of video at VCD standard and 80 minutes on an 80 min CD



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quote:
Originally posted by nikelrah


hahahaha ... this has to be one of the funniest posts ever made. sorry to dissapoint you, but the only idiot here is you! please do never ever try to talk about things you have less then zero knowledge of. even i know that VCD == MGEP-1 == CBR.
taken from vcdhelp.com...
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Video: 1150 kbit/sec MPEG-1 352 x 288 pixels 25 frames/second Audio: 224 kbit/sec MPEG-1 Layer2


now let's do some math: 1150 + 224 == 1374 kbit/s == 172kb/s.
this is a tad higher then the single-speed transfer rate of an audio cd, therefore a 74min cd-r can hold about 70mins of video, while a 80min cd-r can store about 75mins.
now, 168mins/80mins > 2, isn't it? there is no way to "fill up" the cd's like you suggested because it's all CBR - you can't just raise/lower the bitrate without the breaking the VCD-Standard. Therefore it also doesn't really matter if you do 3 CDs with 56 mins each or 2*74mins and one with 20mins only.

sorry about the grammar/spelling/whatever ... english isn't my native language and i was too lazy to re-check the whole post again





your first post ever in your pathetic little life and u insult me.... oh man oh man.... go f**ck a sheep u ignorant homosexual!!

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id take svcd over vcd anyday

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Its good to be back, and I thought this version rocked..

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1st post

been gagging to watch this film....hope its as good as ppl say

any tips would be grateful as i'm sorta lost in thiis department

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edit:nikelrah a 74 min CD hold 74minutes of video at VCD standard and 80 minutes on an 80 min CD



well, who cares about those 5 mins or so as you see i got 172k/s for the video stream. cdda has 150k/s, and you can (obviously) store 74 mins of cdda on a 74 min CD etc. so i thought you'd loose a few mins, but if not then it's even better.

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picture is good,audio is excellent,but the film............. total wank i'd say!

6/7/3


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Ok Nikelrah, i wasn't meaning to be picky or anything, just thought i'd point it out and CDDA does have a data rate of 150k/s but shove an audio cd on and check the data rate with something like Winamp and its 1411kbps.

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quote:
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picture is good,audio is excellent,but the film............. total wank i'd say!

6/7/3




here here-the film was pony indeed-quality release though

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nice

very nice after them 2 cams and ts rls this rocks

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Great release...However, I am dissapointed that they didnt do it SVCD. I looked at the 2 samples and I think the SVCD sample looks MUCH better then the vcd, especially during high action sequences. But oh well, I guess ill just have to wait for the DVD screener, even though i really want to see this film NOW! HeHe

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