Being that this is not a retail dvd, maybe the source was only 1 disc, therefore no way to make it 2 discs for the better quality. Plus, arent all of these dvd screeners single layer, so then no need to encode either. Just my two cents.

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Wow...I thought the pages of people talking about whether the sound of the SVCD release had a 'hiss' was pointless...

There is NO POINT TO A 2 DVD RELEASE OF THIS....PERIOD...

Why?

It's a SCREENER....not RETAIL, there are no trailers, specials, deleted scenes, etc.

The only point to this release is for improved sound and ONE disc, rather than the 4 cds...


On a side note, anyone 'view' this yet? The nfo. had a line about a menu & extras...what did that mean? Subtitles would be the only thing I could think of...that WAS a mistake in the nfo. wasn't it?

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of course the retail was 1 dvd.....see how big it was. probably 7gb+ dvd+rs are only 4.7, retail can be as big as 10gb

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I agree, there is no need for a 2 dvd version of this, hell downsample it and dont complain, there are no features, no one complains when harry potter dvd-r is downsampled, or all these other dvd-r dvd screeners, but god for bid, it's lord of the rings, now we need to change the scene rules for one god damn movie, I dont think so...as for the comment about iot being animorphic, I dont think so, I have a widescreen tv and will burn this and see if it its, most likely it isnt animorphic. Now if this is a svcd re-encode, there is need for a re-rip, but if this comes from the dvd-9 dvdscr and is simply downsampled, it's fine, quit complaining, watch the movie.

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there most certainly is a need for a 2 DVD-r release for those that want the same Quality as the original 3 hour DVD [ which is on a DVD9 ] . There is no way to preserve the Quality with only a single DVD-r version [ it is not possible ] . For those that decide to flame this [ you do not understand encoding , read some and then you might understand ] . Now while I am sure the majority will want a single dvd-r release [ as was done ] this will not give you the full video quality of the actual dvd screener . Those of you watching on a sdtv will say there is no difference , well you are wrong as there most certainly is but you need to have the ability to display it [ Anamorphic progressive scan is where it's at for DVD - until HD-DVD ] .
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lol yeah!

is there anywhere a screenshot?

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ok i'll agree with you there, no loss of quality for widescreen hdtv people, like me, but since when is this release call for the need to do this on 2 dvd-rs, harry potter was a huge movie, no complaints there. Anyway I viewed the sample, its looks good, I'd admit it's downsampled a ton, so why doesnt someone do a 2 dvd-r internal and then just leave the single dvd one out. The fact of the matter is one dvd or 2 dvd, you people are lucky there even is dvd screeners in the first place, if you havent watched it in the theater be glad you can even watch this at home, when the majority of people will wait months and months for a retail dvd. Now I do have fast internet, but for ppl who aren't really fast, is another 4.5 gig really worth it for the few ppl who have hdtv widescreen tv's.

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is it contains scene selections, menus etc. ?

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How many of you Got PM's asking

"Where Can i Download This film" & "where do you download your stuff from please?"


geeez umm let me see, oh yer kazaa.c*m good luck

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If the original screener was a DVD9, then there is deffinately a demand for 2 DVDR release without re-encoding.

A growing number of people these days have home theater setups and widescreen tvs.. If the original screener is anamorphic, I hope any release keeps it as such..

The people complaining about a 2 DVDR release obviously do not know any better or how good it COULD look if it is released untouched...

Cheers

Fletch

:: i agree . ~2800kbit for an anamorphic rls in a hires format is just too low. 2xDVD would mean changing the disc 90mins in, which is not a problem. and if you dont like the filesize, well.. dvdr isn't for you then -pHo

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This is going to sound like a newbie question - but what IRC channels carry DVDR releases. I can always find the SVCD releases on MYD***LOADER or P***ETNEWS - but they never seem to list the DVDR releases.

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If you looked in a.b.dvd you would see many 2 disc rips including one of Raiders of the Lost ark - because they didn't want to sacrifice the quality of the LD conversion.. Aliens is also being posted as DVD-9 using the doom9.org Splitting across 2 DVDs. There is a program called dvdxcopy.com which retains the original quality across 2 DVDs. Most commercial DVD's are DVD-9 9 Gigs. On a 3 hour movie the bitrate would have to be so low to fit that much on a 4 gig disc. So Across 2 dvd's would give you commerical quality - ie. the same QUALITY as the original DVD-9 that it was ripped from.

It would be pointless to try to upconvert the SVCD release to DVD, BUT what we are talking about is having the original DVD-9 released across 2 DVD's. ZERO quality loss. at $2/DVD to be able to enjoy Two Towers as it is in the theatres I think is worth it, and I'm sure any of the DVDR Advocates would agree. Flame me if you want, but the reason this DVD isn't as crisp is because whoever did the encode had to sacrifice the video quality to put it on a single DVD. It still remains to be seen if this is simply the SVCD's upconverted or the original DVD-9 downconverted.

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no, u wake the fuck up. a 3hr dvd (on 1 disc) is crap. around 2800 bitrate. as was PROVEN, lotr first retail was ... CRAP. just for the stupid masses like you (that is prolly a vcd freak lol) pay and enjoy.

a dvdr at that bitrate has about 60% of the REAL capabilities. if the dvdr "scene" (hate that word actually) was to be based on movies at 2800-3000 bitrate, fuck it, better buy the retail. or be a jackass and ejoy TS's.

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there most certainly is a need for a 2 DVD-r release for those that want the same Quality as the original 3 hour DVD [ which is on a DVD9 ] . There is no way to preserve the Quality with only a single DVD-r version [ it is not possible ] . For those that decide to flame this [ you do not understand encoding , read some and then you might understand ] . Now while I am sure the majority will want a single dvd-r release [ as was done ] this will not give you the full video quality of the actual dvd screener . Those of you watching on a sdtv will say there is no difference , well you are wrong as there most certainly is but you need to have the ability to display it [ Anamorphic progressive scan is where it's at for DVD - until HD-DVD ] .
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while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...

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while you are all complaining and whining remember this.

it's free...

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lol
10gb?! why not 20??


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I'd have to concur, these are bootlegs. Some people won't be happy until the retail comes out. The quality of this release is more than sufficient. What more do you want? Be grateful that its here at all.

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Will someone that has actually burnt and watched this movie please leave a comment as I doubt this moaning bunch have. Also has anyone used the patch ok?

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hail to the king baby.

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Ok ive Burnt it and its fine

Something About my vertion of Winrar, gave me an error in each and every fecking rar.
Not CRC errors some other type of error, not a big worry as
ive had this before with ps2 (prolly just my Crap pc)
Anyway on with the post..

The Sfv check sayed all rars are 100% fine
So i Unrar but in my case i tick "keep Borken Files"

now i have the .iso So i patch it with the Region fix (thanks dude who made it for us)

Then Burn the .ISO to a good old Traxdata, Slap it in my Stand-Alone dvd player and it boots

NOT into a Menu as was said in the nfo, But into a Warning Msg
the Kind of Msg you would expext on a Propper Screener About how we are not allowed to copy or rent etc etc.

There are about 5 or 6 chapters and No chapter menu,
( Like i said theres No menus what so ever.)

Sound is Propper 5.1 (center speaker is fine and works here)
no other sound tracks that i could find and no subs

Picture, Well im no expert but the Picture looks Just as good
as the Harry potter 2 and 007 screeners.

What can i say,, Big Thanks to the guys who brought it to us all for Free THanks

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