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Old Post 11-07-2002 03:03 PM
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Bet ya cant guess

"you sir are an idiot... white childred arent born like that.. its just because you want to be like the cool people you see on MTV and BET.. youll grow up and move out of your suburbia into another suburbia and realize that one day"

Not every white kid is born in the suburbs with a fucking porsche in the driveway dumbass, damn. You addapt to your surrounds, you dont see many white kids in harlem with frigin Polo SHirts and Slacks do you?

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"you sir are an idiot... white childred arent born like that.. its just because you want to be like the cool people you see on MTV and BET.. youll grow up and move out of your suburbia into another suburbia and realize that one day"

Not every white kid is born in the suburbs with a fucking porsche in the driveway dumbass, damn. You addapt to your surrounds, you dont see many white kids in harlem with frigin Polo SHirts and Slacks do you?




"Surrounds".....................lol!!!

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1 . Respect to FTF 4 the pre release

2 . if you want a beter release quit crying and wait

3. Im white and I am not from the burbs

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ok i saw that this was released yesterday and i was excited, downloaded it over night. now i just took a look at it and i can not belive how shitty of a job FTF did on this release.

I've enjoyed a lot of FTF's releases in the past, but recently i have been very disappointed especially by The Ring which had people's heads cut off for some part, and had OK audio, and their so called proper had a nicer picture but much worse, well i thought the worst sound.

Now this horrible sound problem seems to be showing up in a number of their new releases.

Can someone fill me in on what horrible technique can be used to get audio this bad?
Is this problem due to the encoding process, or is it the way the movie was actually captured?

This movie relies greatly on sound. The movie is about about music (regardless of what people think about Eminem).

And if you want to watch this movie you are gonna have to sit and decifer every line that comes out of someone's mouth.

Not only this horrible sound, but the aspect ratio is fucked up too. Picture needs to be stretched vertically.
This pisses me off because it is so simple to fix this in TMPGEnc, they obviously weren't going to be beaten, so why not take extra time to correct this. Seems like they dont give a fuck about the final product, they just wanna win the face it seems.

And for anyone who says, dont complain, it's free, what do you do for the scene, go fuck yerselves. This is the biggest cop out excuse on this forum.

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Old Post 11-07-2002 05:25 PM
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....you dumb little shits have you EVER tried to do this, if you have then you know its not easy especially a pre....


wtf are you talking about? You are aware ftf doesnt do their own rips right?

Video: 5
Audio: 4
Movie: N/A

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Old Post 11-07-2002 06:05 PM
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Smile Sound

Rating - 6/5/??

Props for the pre release, must give credit where credit is due.

The problem with the audio is that the gain was too high when it was recorded so the sound clips at too low of a volume. Need to learn to set the levels correctly (if it can be done on the camera) which would eliminate the need to use audio normalization thus getting rid of the hiss.

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Many thanks for getting it done

This was obviously assembled under difficult circumstances, and the quality isn't great, but it's always a thrill to see a film before it is released, with no subtitles or anything!

Video, by telesync standards, is below average. It's dark, a tad shaky, and doesn't always show the complete screen.

The audio has some real problems, as noted in other comments, and it seems to be a pure cam shot, with the audience reactions clearly recorded on the tape.

But it is very welcome. Much better than what I had yesterday, and maybe tomotrrow will be even better. Many thanks to FTF for getting it to us on time. Richly deserved kudos!

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I was talking about his statement that he pities people.....lol and to compare an actual video game made by people who do that for a living, and something someone bootlegged from a theater or wherever is idiotic. There is no comparison. You cant go "cap" a video game.....lol i was saying if he has pity then get off his ass and save us. Think before you speak, speak half of what you think.



no, i was comparing his ability to judge the quality of something even if you know how to make one yourself or not

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you sir are an idiot... white childred arent born like that.. its just because you want to be like the cool people you see on MTV and BET.. youll grow up and move out of your suburbia into another suburbia and realize that one day



if you aren't the pot calling the kettle black. first off, don't stigmatize white children as kids from suburbia born with a silver spoon and no idea of hardship. if you could get your head out of your ass long enough to see that all races are born into hardship, not just minorities, you might understand that. your blanket statement regarding growing up and moving 'out of your suburbia into another suburbia' is ignorant and stupid. kids are not born with much of a predisposition at all with regards to likes/dislikes/attitude, whether white/black/brown/yellow/etc, they learn it from their environment. as others have already said, you adapt to your surroundings. like in your case, i'm sure your family is stupid, so you adapted to this by remaining ignorant and stupid yourself. it's a vicious cycle sometimes.

what really takes the cake though is your generalization that white kids act black 'beacause you want to be like the cool people you see on MTV and BET..' you sir are an idiot, and some sort of pent up racist as well it appears. you seem to say that only things on MTV and BET (i assume you mean black artists) are 'cool', and that all white kids want to mimic what they see so they too can be 'cool. by deduction, this must mean that whites and other races are not 'cool'. get over yourself and your race please. regardless of color, we're all still the same. we all have a brain, some of us just choose to use it while others wait for a handout.

and before the racial banter begins, this is not a racist statement, nor is it meant to be. i just wanted to point out a post that represents a piss-poor attitude with regards to race.

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how????!!??

how can i watch this movie? i have no idea what to do

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bannable

you know what i have to say to you? BAAAAHHHH little sheep

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Video is watchable at best. 6/ Audio is just sick. I can't even hear most of it. 1/ Haven't watched the whole movie yet n/a/

I'm gonna wait for a better release.

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ok i saw that this was released yesterday and i was excited, downloaded it over night. now i just took a look at it and i can not belive how shitty of a job FTF did on this release.

I've enjoyed a lot of FTF's releases in the past, but recently i have been very disappointed especially by The Ring which had people's heads cut off for some part, and had OK audio, and their so called proper had a nicer picture but much worse, well i thought the worst sound.

Now this horrible sound problem seems to be showing up in a number of their new releases.

Can someone fill me in on what horrible technique can be used to get audio this bad?
Is this problem due to the encoding process, or is it the way the movie was actually captured?

This movie relies greatly on sound. The movie is about about music (regardless of what people think about Eminem).

And if you want to watch this movie you are gonna have to sit and decifer every line that comes out of someone's mouth.

Not only this horrible sound, but the aspect ratio is fucked up too. Picture needs to be stretched vertically.
This pisses me off because it is so simple to fix this in TMPGEnc, they obviously weren't going to be beaten, so why not take extra time to correct this. Seems like they dont give a fuck about the final product, they just wanna win the face it seems.

And for anyone who says, dont complain, it's free, what do you do for the scene, go fuck yerselves. This is the biggest cop out excuse on this forum.



First off lets get something staight, why r u pissed off because of the AR? did you cap it? did you put effort into bringing it to us? I know for a fact you didnt. So yes Shut the fuck up and quit complaining or go pay to watch the movie. its that simple. And this isnt about music. Hell 95% of the flick is his ass standing a crowd in a parking lot WITHOUT MUSIC....lol. Do us a favor please, go buy a camera, go sit your ass in the theater, cap it, and go home and upload it. Then use some editing tools like VDUB and spruce up the video with some filters, then use some sound editing software like COOL EDIT PRO to adjust the audio, then FRAMESERV it over to TMPGEnc and get the correct AR. Make a sample (10 megs only plz) then pakage it up with winrar, make a .sfv file and load into onto some cheap ass server your prolly have axx to so we can all see it. oh yeah dont forget the nfo file with some clever statements. All in all, depending on how fast your comp is, this should take you about, oh roughly, 6 to 7 hours to do. Can you do that for us? No? Didn't think so. So please if you dont like it dont download it and most certainly Shut the fuck up and quit complaining. Oh and by the way its physically impossible for someone to fuck themselves.

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I can't really complain being that this is a pre but i will comment that this is yet another horrible release by ftf. 4/2/7

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if you aren't the pot calling the kettle black. first off, don't stigmatize white children as kids from suburbia born with a silver spoon and no idea of hardship. if you could get your head out of your ass long enough to see that all races are born into hardship, not just minorities, you might understand that. your blanket statement regarding growing up and moving 'out of your suburbia into another suburbia' is ignorant and stupid. kids are not born with much of a predisposition at all with regards to likes/dislikes/attitude, whether white/black/brown/yellow/etc, they learn it from their environment. as others have already said, you adapt to your surroundings. like in your case, i'm sure your family is stupid, so you adapted to this by remaining ignorant and stupid yourself. it's a vicious cycle sometimes.

what really takes the cake though is your generalization that white kids act black 'beacause you want to be like the cool people you see on MTV and BET..' you sir are an idiot, and some sort of pent up racist as well it appears. you seem to say that only things on MTV and BET (i assume you mean black artists) are 'cool', and that all white kids want to mimic what they see so they too can be 'cool. by deduction, this must mean that whites and other races are not 'cool'. get over yourself and your race please. regardless of color, we're all still the same. we all have a brain, some of us just choose to use it while others wait for a handout.

and before the racial banter begins, this is not a racist statement, nor is it meant to be. i just wanted to point out a post that represents a piss-poor attitude with regards to race.



Thank you Dr.Lipshits for that insiteful rhetoric into the mind of the racist........................lol. Can you pencil me in for next tuesday, i have some issues i would like to discuss with you regarding your mother. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Loser!

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Watched the sample and the sound blows, un-watchable IMO. This movie looks really good after seeing that sample, it makes me wanna find out what happens.

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watched the whole release and I think the movie is very decent (the movie not the release). I'm seeing this in the theather on saturday and its more then worth the $7. There are lots of parts where the sound is just unbearable. Video is watchable and decent put the sound has the nastiest echo ever especially for a movie based so much on music. Most of the freestyles in the movie (Eminem has about 10 or more minutes of freestyles) are completely unaudible. Check it out in the theather if you really want to see the movie.

6 (video was as much as I can expect from ftf)
2 (audio was even lower then ftf usually produces (4ish))
7 (movie was pretty good and I think once I see it in theathers it will be an 8 or 9)

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G4 lubbin

now i remember why i dont read these forums

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I'm going to pass on this release because of the shitty audio and I'd like to thank anyone who gave an actual review for enlightening me as to the quality of this release. I would like to point something out to those who are "hatin' on" Eminem(yeah thats the expression, looked it up in the suburban whiteboy dictionary). This is not Eminem's movie. It is not a "rap" movie. Its not made by Eminem's record label to make him look tougher or give him street cred. Its a movie made by this guy: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Hanson,%20Curtis. If you check his liitle history you can see that hes made a few really good movies. Eminem is an actor in this movie. He was selected because a) who else is going to manage to convince the audience that they can actually rap well enough to overcome massive prejudice and get ahead in the rap business, Mark Wahlberg??? b) its pretty obvious that he can play the role since it isnt actually MUCH of a stretch. So just relax, watch the movie, and get over yourselves. Making fun of suburban white kids who want to be black is really funny when it comes from a bunch of suburban white kids who have no ambition to walk away from their computer.

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