koodo
May 2008
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Originally posted by baha
No interest in the vitriol in this thread, but you're either naive or new to IMDB if you're not aware that in the last couple of years it's started to become a very poor measure of the quality of a new movie. Be it fanboydom rushing to rave about a movie, or, more likely IMO, studios finally acknowledging the impact that IMDB can have on box office and 'influencing' the ratings to get ticket sales, new movies are always overrated.
Check my post in the No Country For Old Men thread where it was #14 within the first week of release. http://forum.vcdq.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=78675 It's at #99 now and will continue to slowly slide. Or check your own post in the Iron Man thread: you state #99, it's now #160. It's virtually the same for all blockbusters that are released. Am pretty sure The Departed was in at #4 before dropping down. However, a movie making the top 250 at all is a pretty good indicator that the movie is worth seeing. I've never seen a movie in straight at #1 with such a volume of votes before though (I've been using IMDB since the late 90's when it was acquired by Amazon, the company I worked for then was involved in a knowledge base project for Amazon).
And it is a justified entry. TDK exceeded all my expectations. The story was tight, brilliantly written, the characters were superbly developed - the Joker for example, we know nothing of his history (in this movie), but from conversations, sometimes anecdotal (such as Alfred's jungle bandit), the burning of the cash, his conversation with TF (in the hospital, where he says plans aren't his thing, he just wants to mess with order and establishment), his two versions of how he got his scars (lying to people for no reason/gain), his versions of Cruise's "You complete me", we gradually know everything we need to about him - the sheer brilliant pacing, the flaws in the characters (everything that I know to be the contradictions in Batman, Bruce Wayne's belief that Rachael will choose him, Harvey Dent's white knight in comparison to the Dark Knight...both of whom are the heads side of Harvey's coin)...just everything about the movie is fantastic.
Totally disagree with the notion that it has to be grounded in real world events to be considered a great movie. Much as The Lives of Others, Downfall and Requiem for a Dream are all brilliant films, the LotR movies, Sin City, and TDK are far more my cup of tea and IMO have performances equally as brilliant, writing that is as strong, and have visual artistry far superior to anything in the 'grounded' movies.
Not often that I see a movie on the big screen twice, but I'm planning to see this again on the biggest screen I possibly can, booking for the BFI IMAX...but booked solid (for anything but extreme wing seats) for the next 3 weeks. Worth the wait though, when movies are this good it's worth it!
Good post. Kinda reflects my thoughts. Don't think I could put it in words as well as you have.
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