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Arthur Daily
Feb 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad

Shit man, which TV did you get? I want details.



don't make the same mistakes i did, and get twisted up with details.
i went into this with a few choices to be made..

LCD or Plasma, its been about 4 years from when i 'really' looked into LCD.
Samsung's new LED/LCD's on paper made me reevaluate my LCD fears.
although in the flesh, LED and normal back-lighting didn't look 'that much' different. well not a £1000 difference that's for dam sure.
anyway, LCD was back in the equation and looking at some of the dam sexy lcd's my choices doubled. or did they?

my budget was still 1k, and i wanted bigger than 42" and a native ratio of 1080p.
LCD & plasmas are a hell of a lot thinner than i remember, so much so that for some models its regarded as a selling point.
with display models on rotating stands as if to say "hey im thin n sexy".
but one question sprang to mind over and over again, Who watches a tv from the side?
yer its thin as fuck, but i cant see anything from here. lol

Samsungs series 6 with its internet'ish rss and whether had me for a while.
the ability to play movies from USB or via the network was tempting for about 15mins until during a kfc i decided i wasn't going £300 over budget and more importantly whatever set i decided on, its gonna be hooked up to a feckin ps3.
besides, by now i was starting to feel for 50" and these samsungs where only 46".

pioneer's where nice but for a tag of £2500 for what i could tell was just the ability to handle a standard SD tv signal was just...
well they where over twice my budget so fuck em.

i almost went for a 50" LG LCD, with built in DTV and a 160 hard drive for recording... but noticed it was 720p and digging a little deeper discovered its recording was restricted to its built in DTV.
but it was the 720p that put me off most, i was now SURE i wanted 1080p and 50".

LG had looked after me in the past with a warranty repair, so they where a good contender.

then i noticed a 50" 1080P LCD for £1500, humm £500 over budget lets have a look anyway.
no DTV recording built in but it dose have DTV and 3 HDMI blaa blaa blaa
pic was good, but could the settings be different from the others around it?
fuck it, lets see if i can haggle on it.
but no sooner had i started the haggle process the guy pointed to the corner of the store where a boxed up tv EXACTLY the same model was showing a price of £1100.

Why? because the box was damaged.
but he assured me the TV was fine... safe to say after a demo and a little Arthur charm i got it down to 1k and here we are.

what brand? whats the spec?

lol

like i said, 50" LCD 1080p native and the hidef shit looks awesome. nuff said.

i learnt one thing, the internet research is only good to see whats out there and at what price.
nothing beats seeing these sets up n running side by side.

why go by a site that sells tv's with a review just next to the price,
would they put a bad review there?

only review sites worth a toss are ones that don't sell shit,

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The CandyMan
Dec 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Shit man, which TV did you get? I want details.


LOL!

Actually I want details too.

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Neversoft
May 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Also Arf if there all hooked up to the same source theres going to be a diminishing quality on each TV.
On an analogue signal maybe but not digital you gimp

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Apr 2008


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quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Daily


what brand? whats the spec?

lol

like i said, 50" LCD 1080p native and the hidef shit looks awesome. nuff said.




Damn nigga, don't be ashamed of your techtronic telly you got from tesco

Why the big secret? you named loads of other brands in your search...

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HoldDaSalad
Nov 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by Neversoft
On an analogue signal maybe but not digital you gimp
Most stores that I know are using analog for the HD sources and not HDMI so yes if it's analog there will be obvious quality loss, I would almost have to assume without knowing 100% that if you have a digital source running from HDMI you still lose quality, the quality loss would come from the splitter right?

I'm not an expert at feeding 100's of TV's the same feed.

Arf I kind of disagree, I read a million reviews on my headphones sits that sold them, sites that didn't. Yes some sites were biased toward certain brands, kind of like fan boys. Overall if you can read through the BS then you'll have good reviews to go on even if they do sell the products.

When I purchased my 22in monitor it was $299 and that was a steal at the time, I read up on monitors and had a Scepter in mind but purchased an off brand called Chimei because it was a tad cheaper and came with a DVI cable. So all my reading went out the drain. I found my monitor on newegg well over a year later with a fuck ton of reviews and most were fantastic.

The one time I went for Quantity over Quality and got a Quality product. So it can happen, just because you've never heard of the brand doesn't mean it's going to be shit.

Hell my Tube TV upstairs that I was talking about is a budget brand LCI, LSI or some shit. It's a rebranded Sylvania and I think Sylvania sucks but that TV is fantastic, lol. Again a story of Quantity over Quality and I got Quality.

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Fuckmonkey
Jan 2009


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Do we have any analog HD sources in the UK? I can't think of any - Sky HD and ITV HD are both from digital sources so the comparison should have been fair. I doubt they were using component to feed out.

Anyway even if they used a splitter/matrix it likely had a booster in it so shouldn't have affected anything. As Arthur said even at 60% quality from each feed the side-by-side would indicate the best brand.

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HoldDaSalad
Nov 2002


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Again, something I didn't know. I don't live in the UK, Thanks for the tid bit though

I don't know how they have there setups, Also you gotta take in mind the TV settings, most stores even your TV shops don't set em up correctly half the time.


Hmmm I wonder if The Candymans flat panel is set up correctly?

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Neversoft
May 2002


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HDMI "splitters" as more like repeaters... There's no signal degradation, it's digital, it's basically a copy of the incoming digital data squirted to multiple outputs. A digital signal either works or it doesn't (it either decrypts or it doesn't essentially). I forgot you can get high def over component in the US as well though, which would degrade if you split it, we don't bother with that old skool shit over here in Blighty

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HoldDaSalad
Nov 2002


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quote:
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HDMI "splitters" as more like repeaters... There's no signal degradation, it's digital, it's basically a copy of the incoming digital data squirted to multiple outputs. A digital signal either works or it doesn't (it either decrypts or it doesn't essentially). I forgot you can get high def over component in the US as well though, which would degrade if you split it, we don't bother with that old skool shit over here in Blighty


Very true, Digital in = Digital out

Most if not all store setups here in the states or at least in Columbus are running off component at best. At least that's what I've seen.

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Arthur Daily
Feb 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Also you gotta take in mind the TV settings, most stores even your TV shops don't set em up correctly half the time.




most important thing you've said all thread.


i would guess they originally are all factory default, but over time people fiddle.
difference in brightness and colours will vary greatly with display models.

a close tie with my glee, is the fact i now got my old 42" on my bedroom wall. lol

and if i had a spare wall mount, i would put this fucked spare 42" i got in storage up in the bathroom.
just for when MTV Cribs come calling lol

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Jan 2009


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I would stress again though Arthur (and anyone else): get a copy of Digital Video Essentials (HD version or other). You'll be amazed how out of whack your settings are once you've calibrated.

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May 2002


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I would stress again though Arthur (and anyone else): get a copy of Digital Video Essentials (HD version or other). You'll be amazed how out of whack your settings are once you've calibrated.



I have had this a while but not done anything with it, might give it a go tonight along with Dolby 5.1 DTS and THX Demo Disk

P.S DVD Essentials HD is on a dual layer

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Jan 2009


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It takes a while to complete but it is worth it - I actually started off using the recommendations on settings from AV Forums and then used this disc to tweak.

However I found the HD version didn't seem to have any HD specific tests... that may have been an early version though.

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Mar 2005


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Now you just need to get a good base unit and some big hard drives and raid em up then grab an external hdd and hook it up and grab all the hd rips that you want, doubt you will watch a dvdr then



Why not just stream out to the PS3 using uShare (or similar) on a virtual Ubuntu (or similar) server? Been using this on my PS3 for the last 3 months or so - mkv2vob an x.264 source - means I have the entire library of media on my server, HD included, at my disposal on any of the capable players in my house. Just make sure if using HD source you have wired ethernet - wireless sucks at streaming high volume.

Looks awesome on my HD tv and no expensive external hard drive or messing about copying to worry about!

I am also messing with Ubuntu on my PS3 - still sucks a bit at the minute but trying to find a better driver for the graphics. HD PC in your living room!

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Bakkoda
Jul 2002


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grats on the new TV

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Feb 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by HoldDaSalad
Very true, Digital in = Digital out

Most if not all store setups here in the states or at least in Columbus are running off component at best. At least that's what I've seen.



Either that or they have the one display with component or even composite in next to a tv with a monster hdmi cable with a nice sign SEE THE MONSTER DIFFERENCE ... drives me nuts.

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Nov 2002


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Either that or they have the one display with component or even composite in next to a tv with a monster hdmi cable with a nice sign SEE THE MONSTER DIFFERENCE ... drives me nuts.
So very true, I've seen that shit.

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Apr 2008


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So Arf, what tv did you get?

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Arthur Daily
Feb 2004


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hey i just noticed in celebrity apprentice when mr trump sends the winning team out of the boardroom to watch the losing team get grilled.
that's my tv they watch...

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hey i just noticed in celebrity apprentice when mr trump sends the winning team out of the boardroom to watch the losing team get grilled.
that's my tv they watch...



i hope your getting some cash for letting them use your front room

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