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The source is probably good, but what I dont understand is why a big group like TCF cant get real encoders? I mean, first he fucks up the first encode, interlace/ghosting, and then they say they are repacking, and 3 days later, still nothing. They sure are fast

Also where is the DVD-R? Is it not retail and they dont want people to know? Otherwise it should be out by now.

TCF give your suppliers to some other group who can encode right please, they are a waste of resources stuck with you.

Every group has multiple encoders and from the looks of it, maybe their usual encoder was working on their screeners. Even if it took them 3 days, not everyone sits around their comp and rushes 3 screeners in shitty quality out like VideoCD does just to (quote)"win"(unquote) the race. packing mpegs? rofl, at least TCF can do something as simple as packing properly. If anything, VideoCD's suppliers are wasting their resources on a group created from the shittiest groups of the scene including extreme and vigilante. Word of advice, go to a real group like TCF/TEG/RSP/VXr that's where quality "encoding" shines.

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If any decent man had to pick between a release thats packed in mpg and a release thats got interlace/ghosting, he'd go with the mpg and use 5 minutes of his time to make the bin/cue. I rest my case.

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By the way, why even drag VideoCD into this? What does their screeners have to do with TCF's crappy encode on this SVCD? Besides their screeners certainly looked fine to me (and 90% of the other people who dont have their head stuck up TCF's ass)

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If any decent man had to pick between a release thats packed in mpg and a release thats got interlace/ghosting, he'd go with the mpg and use 5 minutes of his time to make the bin/cue. I rest my case.
It takes effort to rip a dvd and one simple mistake can fuck it all up, a chimp can right load an mpeg into nero or vcdeasy with their fixed templates and hit go. that's all I was saying, and I rest mine. TCF messed up on 1 DVD, sue them at least they are willing to fix it. VideoCD fucked up on 2 vcds (both of which has the same mistake, doesn't take that long to unrar and check), and continues to mislabel... their latest victim, unfaithful. So why make stupid remarks about TCF's encoding (something of which anyone can see if better than VideoCD's) if a group can't even bin/cue properly.

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figaro actually does know his shit

but that doesnt change the fact that hes a whining prick
these are free movies, you want a perfect dvd then go to the store in 3 months for fucks sake


3 months early and nearly perfect and this dildo is complaining

its like you want ppl to get mad at you!!

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I still dont understand your point of view, do you think that because VideoCD messed up two of their releases, TCF can mess up one and people cant have a negative opinion?

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I still dont understand your point of view, do you think that because VideoCD messed up two of their releases, TCF can mess up one and people cant have a negative opinion?
There is a difference between negative opinion and flaming, I gave my "opinion" on VideoCD's releases and you can't accept that? Then why are you tripping over the fact that I for one appreciate this release (like the other 90% who aren't flaming).

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Im not whining. I want legit archivable retail releases that doesn't support the Triads or whatever gang influences there are. This is nowhere near a perfect svcd. Looks like crap on standalone, its interlaced. Shit like that Id hang on to a screener till someone releases an internal or a proper. These guys will bitch and moan about quality and look at this shit. And this isnt TCF's first fuckup by far. There's ton of audio nukes and other video anomalies that squeaks by because like 98% of you dont give a flying fuck if its 2% better looking than a screener, only that its out fast. God any godawful group can do that shit. Some choose not too cause these dvds friggin blow. So i'm happy that you guys like this crap release. Ill wait for a rip from a real retail disc thank you.

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back like a vertebrae

there is absoultley NOTHING wrong with this release, why must everything be so perfect, buy the fucker when it comes out if you want dvd quality, bet y'all would complain still

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TCF has informed us that they are reripping that properly that's
why you can see the quality difference if you compare
our xvid vs. the svcd. we'll let them explain what went wrong

Excerpt from DVL subpack release. Naaaaah nothing wrong with this release. Baaaaaah I love TCF Baaaaaah

Wheres that nice R3 DVD-R at?

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Honestly, I dont understand why some of you people are picking apart TCF's releases. It seems as if you hate the group not the release.

I can still remember people bitching about TCF not adding credits. And to please us, they actually included credits for us for their future releases.

And if you are asking me to believe in little asian men conspiracy, thats alittle far fetched.
If there wasn't master copy dvd, which retails are made from, (with extras etc etc) available somewhere out there for those little asian men to pirate, how in the world did they press it into DVD9?
Surely you are not going to tell me this is the SCREENER pressed on DVD.

Figaro: I apologise in advance if I have misunderstood whatever you are saying.....(read it three times and still dont quite understand what u are getting at)

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ok figaro
you do have a point here but lets face it

its still a very nice release 3 months pre
theres no reason for you to call it crap
it may not be a perfect rip and im glad TCF has decided to redo it

but please next time just say something like "its not perfect but great try tcf" not "this is total shit"

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Honestly, I dont understand why some of you people are picking apart TCF's releases. It seems as if you hate the group not the release.



I dont hate the group, I hate their attitude, they think they are all that, which they state in just about every of their NFOs by flaming virtually every group in the scene. Same with the retards @ DVL since probably half their crews are same people. So when they make a pretty big mistake like this, I dont mind being a bit extra harsh. How ironic that in this NFO they are flaming another groups release and how they didnt pack it right, and then their own release end up being a bigger fuckup, its quite hilarious really

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blacks dear man. Its not an asian conspiracy. Its called organized crime. Stolen screeners or what have you and pressed to DVD9. Its ok that you dont believe me. I can tell ya lots of stuff you wouldnt believe but I dont wanna get in trouble . Anywho, yes i despise both groups. First off dealing with these asians can bring in the feds might quick cause believe it or not they are watched. So its stupid #1 for groups to even go that route, but thats ok, nothing would please me more than to see morons get busted. mew also parrots my thoughts on both groups. Every nfo so far they rant about other groups, they got their own fucked up releases which indeed is hilarious. Needless to say Ive been around a long long time. Longer than all them groups put together x3 or 4 i forget. Heed my words or mark me a raving lunatic. I know I wont be entertaining Bubba anytime soon.

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it isnt retail. enough said.


repack is pred. who knows what changed... maybe they learned how to IVTC their asian pirate dvd.

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we apologize for the previous release, the dvd
was progressive film but our encoder (probably
drunk on booze :P) accidently used deinterlacing
filters on a non-interlaced source, there were a
few frames which were ntsc and film below 95%
so we chose to ivtc instead of using force film
for this rerip. we also filled this onto 80min
cdrs this time

Hey classic encoding skills.
First off which was it TCF? Progressive or Hybrid source
Secondly using deinterlace filters on a non deinterlaced source dont magically produce lines. The source was interlaced to begin with. Boy cant wait to see this one now. IVTC on a hybrid source. Should look scrumptious. Save your lies for the P2Ps

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Stolen screeners or what have you and pressed to DVD9. Its ok that you dont believe me.


You missed my point. I believe there are piracy and such(duh!)
But what im saying is that for the pirates to pirate their DVD9s, there must be a copy for them to steal from. If you are saying this is a screener, then I think you are wrong, cos.........

A SCR should never have extras and commentary and etcetc. As you can see from the DVDR release(dont really know which grp it is), there are extras. Which brings me to the conclusion this isn't a DVD SCR.

I have seen enough DVD SCRs to know that they do not ever include extras. So you saying this is a screener is pretty off imo.

Again, I apologise if I am wrong...even though i doubt it.

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Im not whining. I want legit archivable retail releases that doesn't support the Triads or whatever gang influences there are. This is nowhere near a perfect svcd. Looks like crap on standalone, its interlaced. Shit like that Id hang on to a screener till someone releases an internal or a proper. These guys will bitch and moan about quality and look at this shit. And this isnt TCF's first fuckup by far. There's ton of audio nukes and other video anomalies that squeaks by because like 98% of you dont give a flying fuck if its 2% better looking than a screener, only that its out fast. God any godawful group can do that shit. Some choose not too cause these dvds friggin blow. So i'm happy that you guys like this crap release. Ill wait for a rip from a real retail disc thank you.



God your such a baby. It's 3 months early, you damn well know there will be a RETAIL PROPER once the time comes (2-3 weeks prior to release date) . just like all retail dvd's are prereleased about that time. If you don't want it, then dont DOWNLOAD IT! It's as simple as that. You can wait 2+ months to get your retail, legit archiveable svcd dvd rip.

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OH MY LORD! WHAT THE HECK IS THIS! CAN IT BE AN INDONESIAN DVD9!!!

Austin.Powers.In.Goldmember.DVDR-BooZerS
Austin.Powers.in.GoldMember.EXTRAS.DVDR-MaST3rS

I was also wondering that if these are indonesian dvd9's then why is it that only TCF gets them? Why doesn't every other group order it from indonesian "r3" shops, etc? I mean, if it's available there, TCF can't be the only ones who can get them right? Also for reference just because dvd2avi shows frames as ntsc it doesn't mean that it isn't progressive, there is an article on doom9's website about it. Maybe someone can download the DVDR and check the streams since I don't think it was downsampled. Last Castle retail and Van Wilder retail that I rented from blockbuster also had ntsc/film streams but they were still progressive, maybe blockbuster bought it from an indonesian It's one excuse after another, and yet again non of these releases differ from retail. And also the comment that mew made about TCF dissing every group seems over exaggerated, I only see them dissing VideoCD and then all of their members going ballistic over it. As for DVL targetting DEiTY, we already knew DEiTY started that feud so I mean... who else are they dissing? I only count 2 groups.

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Newsflash Pilgrims:

Talk to rfta who had spiderman. Talk to them even more and all they have access to are screeners. Spiderman screener had extras, subs, the whole nine yards. So can screeners have the full dvd? Why most certainly. Big Movies-Nice Screeners. If TCF/DVL had such a great supply for pres, why not do anything else but 20th Century Fox movies? Oh right FOX don't do screeners.

Hey here's a good idea too that works. E-mail or call up Newline. Say your from rottentomatoes.com or some movie critic website. Ask them what region will be pressed first and when they will be pressed. Don't forget to tell them that you need this info for your website. Also ask them if you can get a preview screener for this movie. Hey life is good.

This will be my last post. Enjoy :P

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