Agreed. The STFU release has sync issues as well and you can definately see the difference in video quality from the re-encode. I suggest grabbing GF's version or just fixing the sync yourself in VD.

You know what? I think the earlier poster was right... they should have NUKED this release and made these guys fix it themselves.

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Credit needs to go to VideoCd for this great release. Even though the group that released it is Ring, when you use iso buster to extract the mpeg, the folder that it is in is labeled VideoCD. So I just want to thank Videocd for doing a great job on getting us this screener!!!!

:: so the label can't be referring to VideoCD as in, y'know.. the format?

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Originally posted by gfavored
...You can use that same VD mod to correct the audio faster than running a complete re-encode through TMPGEnc,(which doesn't always correct the problems).
In the audio settings use interleaving, adjust the skew, either + or - incriments, then preview each adjustment in VD until you get it synced, then save wav (now corrected), and run the corrected wav file through TMPGEnc, multiplex the audio with the orig vid and burn. 20 min per audio file transcoding is alot better than hours of re-encoding. To get you started the first cd needs a -1500ms skew correction. Make your adjustments in + or - 100ms incriments and as it gets closer to sync decrease the incriments.
It took me about an average of 12 minutes per file to correct the audio.


PS: cd 4 is -35ms, I forget what the other two are , somewhere around -65 and -350ms I think, too many numbrs in my head to remember, lol, sorry.
Also use the second play button, (third button from the left), in VD to preview, and of course audio must be set to full process.

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mikeymcd,

You have to transcode the audio through TMPGEnc, load the wav, select audio only and run it. It takes an average of 12min per file to do. It converts the wav to mpeg, then you can multiplex.

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mikeymcd,

You have to transcode the audio through TMPGEnc, load the wav, select audio only and run it. It takes an average of 12min per file to do. It converts the wav to mpeg, then you can multiplex.

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Ah - ok. Thankyou very much!!! Works fine now

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mikeymcd,

Glad to hear it, how long did it take u total to correct the files, the way I said to?

Glad to help

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gfavored --

Thanx for the tips. I got my stuff syncd exactly as you said. I was wondering how difficult/long it is to make a 2 or 3 disk version from myself. I don't want to download again so I want to make my own 2 or 3 disk version. I guess 3 disk would be lossless and 2 would by lossy? (Since the total size of all 4 disk must exceed the 1400Mb space available on two disks).

Does it take hours and hours of processing time? (To merge and cut the files).

Would you mind posting your process?

BTW I got one disk syncd in about 45 min -> 15 minutes for VDub to extract wave, 12 minutes to convert to mp2, and 8 minutes to multiplex. Plus about 10 minutes to find the sync + or - values.

Thanks, your tips have been very useful.

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how do ya transcode in Tmpgenc? i'm able to get the whole movie on a dvd-r. but the audio is badly out of sync. when i just burn the bin file, it seems okay. so i'm trying to fix it like previous posts suggested, but don't know how to transcode before multiplexing. any info would be greatly appreciated.

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mikeymcd,

Glad to hear it, how long did it take u total to correct the files, the way I said to?

Glad to help

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csguy hi,

I don't believe this is the forum for this topic, and am really surprised I haven't been bitched at yet, lol. There are alot of good forums and guides for that though check out Doom9 for a start, and my favorite VCDhelp or DVD-R Help.

But it depends on alot of things, the Encoding engine you are using, how much Ram you have, your CPU speed and if you use multi-pass or constant quality, or automatic VBR constant quality, if the encoder has those features.
You must use VBR instead of CBR to get a 3+ hour movie on 2disc.
The math just doesn't work for CBR, it's impossible.

At this time there is only one source that I'm aware of that has audio sync and it also happens to be a 2disc release, and it's not the STFU release, lol, but I put a link with the info above.
It may be faster to dl than to try a re-encode that you haven't tried before. But if it were me, I'd take the time and learn it by doing it, . Practice does make perfect.

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mikeymcd,

That time will decrease as you do more , when it becomes second nature, instead of an educated guess,


enjoy the movie

PS: can one of you guys help out mooch49 now.

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how do ya transcode in Tmpgenc? i'm able to get the whole movie on a dvd-r. but the audio is badly out of sync. when i just burn the bin file, it seems okay. so i'm trying to fix it like previous posts suggested, but don't know how to transcode before multiplexing. any info would be greatly appreciated.

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excellente............worked like a charm. thanks a bunch mikeymcd for the tip.

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I’ve been trying to get the film onto 3 CDs (since I have some 800MB discs). I used Womble-VCR to perfectly join and sync the 4 parts, after which I hoped to slit the film into 3 with fade ins/outs for each part.

All goes well until I try to save the new files…I end up with no audio. This seems to happen when the files are larger than 600MB or longer than 57 minutes. What am I doing wrong Is there some limit on the size of split VCD-compliant mpegs?

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Well props to ring whovever they may be for getting this out and satisfying alot of eager people ...... the video is pixelated at times especially in action scenes but the audio is sounding hot on my standalone ...... this will hold me over till retail cuz there is a slim to none chance we will be seeing a dvdscr of this ...... i give the video a 7 a little better then logistics but not much but audio is pretty damn good here i give it a 9 ...... And the movie well its good but not as good as the previous 2 to me anywayz ..... i give it a 8

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Alright now this is what i've been waiting for. An Academy Screener of Return of the King and its Widescreen to boot. A few minor problem drag down the quality of an otherwise excellent rls. Yeah I'd prefer DVDscr, but its not gonna happen this year. Pic is actually pretty good for only being VCD. Although I must admit a stand alone dvd player does it much better justice than PowerDVD. No white line on my TV. There is a slight out of sync audio issue on disk 3, but they tell you that in the NFO, so oh well. Overall if you got the bw and time. Download this you won't be sorry.

Video-7.8 (Better than I thought for VCD, a little blurry and pixelated especially disk 3
Audio-8 (very direct audio, no probs except disk 3
Movie-9.5

P.S. Anyone else notice a missing piece between end of CD2 and start CD3. Mine goes from him rounding the corner of Spider cave to amisdt the battle at gondor, then back to him rounding the corner. Just curious if its my copy

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obi_robz hi,

No there are no limitations, except for the 2gig file limitations that 95 and some 98 Window versions have.

What are u using to cut the file. I suggest you use TMPGEnc's mpeg tools, merge and cut feature.


bcool2k,

Hi check out the top of page 4, .

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All goes well until I try to save the new files…I end up with no audio. This seems to happen when the files are larger than 600MB or longer than 57 minutes. What am I doing wrong Is there some limit on the size of split VCD-compliant mpegs? [/B][/QUOTE]

I had the same problem with disc 1 and 3 (the ones where I'd changed the audio). TMPGEnc wouldn't accept the (modified) mpg as an audio source.

I had to demux, convert the sound to a wav in SoundForge and then remux.

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Hi all! I don't quite understand this out of sync-thing that is discussed here. If I watch the ROTK-movie in Powerdvd or on my standalone it doesn't matter - this problem really confuses me big time:

The problem is that the sound is in sync in the beginning of the disc, but after a while it sorta "slides" away. And so at the end on each of the four (but especially cd2 & cd4) discs it's like 1 second out of sync. If i correct the problem like gfavored advices so that it is in sync at the end - then naturally it is bad at the beginning. Am I totally out of line here or does anybody else have the same problem?

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Credit needs to go to VideoCd for this great release. Even though the group that released it is Ring, when you use iso buster to extract the mpeg, the folder that it is in is labeled VideoCD. So I just want to thank Videocd for doing a great job on getting us this screener!!!!

:: so the label can't be referring to VideoCD as in, y'know.. the format?

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LOL! that has to be one of the funniest things ive read in a long long time...

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