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a2jward
May 2002

p0rn is GOSU

man I dont want to download this release but I would be stocked on the audio I wish their was a scene for DTS so I could do my own authoring at home I know my apex could handle a CVD/XSCD with DTS.

Im going to go back and reread pages 2 and 3 of this thread but I have a question about the header trick being discussed are people trick DVD players in America to play a PAL video and American tvs are correctly playing the video?

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quote:
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Im going to go back and reread pages 2 and 3 of this thread but I have a question about the header trick being discussed are people trick DVD players in America to play a PAL video and American tvs are correctly playing the video?

I was the one to think of it , do it first, and after success with my Samsung, recommended as worth a try for others.

First, your DVD Player *STILL* must have the capability of converting PAL to NTSC already. The reason why this worked on the Samsung, Sony, and RCA is because they already convert PAL to NTSC for VCD/SVCD, just not for DVD.

Next, the header change does nothing but tell the DVD Players that it is a NTSC DVD, therefore, they don't "spit it out" like they were doing before when they read it was PAL.

Last, yes, it shows on the TV perfectly fine, but that is because once these DVD Players are tricked into accepting it as a NTSC DVD, these players then realize immediately it is PAL Video, and then begin to convert the video the same way they already do with VCD/SVCD.

There is no guarantee it will work....but worth trying. The header trick does not work for my Pioneer, as my old Pioneer doesn't convert PAL to NTSC for any format. Goodluck,

Paula

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06-08-2003 08:55 PM

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Ok just watched it and of course the audio is very nicely done so props to CTP for that.

The pseudo DVD interface is actually done quite well. When I heard about it I thought you could only choose the language but that scene selections is above and beyond.

Video is the same so anybody expecting anything different, don't.

It is nicer to have this all on one disc rather than 3 but I only advise a download if you really want it or if you were just curious like me.

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06-10-2003 11:37 AM

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monkeycrew,

1. It was regionfree (Pho confirmed that), just included a PAL header and PAL video.... If it wasn't regionfree, my Pioneer and Samsung would have given the "region" error......and they did not.

2. Next, the header change made it work for my Samsung, my friend's Sony, and some guy's RCA. You have a better idea? Post it... Again, region was NOT THE PROBLEM!

3. I believe you are 100% wrong about the audio. Anyone with a half-ass audio setup can tell the difference between "discrete" 5.1DD and remuxed/remixed/re-created 5.1 from TS 2.0DD. This would have been apparent during the car chase and fighting sequence. I believe CTP did get hold of the DTS CD (as rumored) and created the DD5.1 track from that.... and that is what it sounds like on my system. Maybe you don't truly have a 5.1DD amp/receiver?

Done.

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06-12-2003 07:48 PM

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Just a question. I know that with movies that you can put onto CD, that the bin/cue's are convertable to an mpeg format for viewing from the computer. Is that so with DVD style releases?

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06-13-2003 10:16 AM

XeroFightsAlo
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Just a question. I know that with movies that you can put onto CD, that the bin/cue's are convertable to an mpeg format for viewing from the computer. Is that so with DVD style releases?

yes and no.

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1. I knew the release was region free, i just thought you might have got a copy that wasn't. Anyone can make a DVD region free, DVDDeCrypter anyone?

2. Oh, i'm sorry if oyur NTSC system can't handle PAL, my PAL can handle NTSC... but as for a solution the header seems rather make shift, as it will probably not work on a PAL system after the mod.

3. Well i have Xbox with the advanced scart capable so i can have optical hook-ups to my system, so i pretty much have DD5.1, and in my OPINION it SEEMS to be a recoded stereo track, but i may be proven wrong...

still, it's JUST a spruced up telesync, props to CTP for making it an all, but it's not a new concept, have you seen any PDVD releases in asia recently (admittedly they often use shit sources) but they usually have multi-language subs, and menus, and scene selection.

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1. No ... I don't believe there are varied versions of it "floating" around.

2. After the mod, it still works on the Apex, but does shift the picture ; However, funny enough, the Initial unit still plays it fine, as well as the Samsung.

3. I really wish I knew what XBOX , scart cable have to do with this convo? I run an optical to my DD/DTS 5.1 amp, end of story.

4. No one said it was anything different - there was no false advertising. People knew what they were downloading (TS DVD-R)...yes, we've all heard of PDVD....

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06-15-2003 01:33 AM

razzy
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CENTROPY HAS DONE IT AGAIN

First things first nuke or no nuke who really cares GREAT release. Second its DVDR hmm only $1 dvd burner hmm cheap now and being MATRIX RELOADED 5.1 DOLBY DIGITAL worth everything above.Not to mention a kickass menu. I hope centropy does everyone of there releases in dvdr format for now on i mean who really cares about scene rules this site is for talking about quality and that is what exactly is going on QUALITY AT ITS BEST.
Centropy if you read this i'm probably one of your favorite fans keep doing what your doing cause it is overdue for a change in the scene and it is nice to see that is you guys that are the only ones that try and succeed to be sucessfull. MoreTS DVDR keep it going. Well worth the dl wait. One more thing NTSC friendly would be nice but its still all good.

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alright.. great release (watched on windvd)

burned to disc.. oh yea my pioneer doesnt work with pal (get the rolling black and white pic) but it does work with pal svcds so

did the header .ifo mod, changed from pal to ntsc in 2 places in each file

now, video works perfectly! but now the audio flickers in and out (my dobly digital indicator on my dvd player also flickers on and off). When sound is on it sounds perfect, then it flickers to nothing, then back, about 1 second each

anyone have any ideas? (other than buy a new dvd player)

thanx
jeff

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quote:
Originally posted by jptheripper2
alright.. great release (watched on windvd)

burned to disc.. oh yea my pioneer doesnt work with pal (get the rolling black and white pic) but it does work with pal svcds so

did the header .ifo mod, changed from pal to ntsc in 2 places in each file

now, video works perfectly! but now the audio flickers in and out (my dobly digital indicator on my dvd player also flickers on and off). When sound is on it sounds perfect, then it flickers to nothing, then back, about 1 second each

anyone have any ideas? (other than buy a new dvd player)

thanx
jeff

Not really......I think I stuck the modded PAL one into my Pioneer and had the same problems. Seems you will have to get another DVD Player, then you won't need the header trick possibly...

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06-27-2003 03:18 AM

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Hi,

well the CTP release on DVD-r was just a matter of time.

The angle has been improved, the vid quality is the same as the SVCD.

For all your guyz with dvd burner:

just make your own 100% "original" DVD Matrix Reloaded as sold on ebay.com & ebay.de a 100 times before.

Small chinese have done the job the "professional way", made a cover and sold them on the market for around ~ 10 US$.

You could join Reloaded & Animatrix on 1 dvd-r, make some small menue and voila, its done.

I would not recommend downloading it, if you already own the SVCD TGSC release.

And yes, it's english & german due to the fact, that ctp & TGSC joined forces ....

VIDEO by CTP
VIDEO editing (angle and stuff) by TGSC
AUDIO (english and german) by TGSC

CU

drAgon [TMD]

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Paula
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quote:
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Hi,

well the CTP release on DVD-r was just a matter of time.

The angle has been improved, the vid quality is the same as the SVCD.

For all your guyz with dvd burner:

just make your own 100% "original" DVD Matrix Reloaded as sold on ebay.com & ebay.de a 100 times before.

Small chinese have done the job the "professional way", made a cover and sold them on the market for around ~ 10 US$.

You could join Reloaded & Animatrix on 1 dvd-r, make some small menue and voila, its done.

I would not recommend downloading it, if you already own the SVCD TGSC release.

And yes, it's english & german due to the fact, that ctp & TGSC joined forces ....

VIDEO by CTP
VIDEO editing (angle and stuff) by TGSC
AUDIO (english and german) by TGSC

CU

drAgon [TMD]

I disagree, and believe the video is slightly better than the SVCD, and the DVD is DD5.1, which is "why" the DVD-R was done, and people keep forgetting that and getting stuck on the quality of the picture. You can't do DD 5.1 with SVCD.

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You may disagree, BUT the quality of the DVD-R and the SVCD version IS the SAME.

There is no other source, than the centropy source.

There is NO difference, even the preview of Matrix Revolution has been forgotten to include ....

DD 5.1 IS nice, but there is no need to get this version for the sake of DD; the german version is NOT DD 5.1 as stated by the chinese :-)

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quote:
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You may disagree, BUT the quality of the DVD-R and the SVCD version IS the SAME.

There is no other source, than the centropy source.

There is NO difference, even the preview of Matrix Revolution has been forgotten to include ....

DD 5.1 IS nice, but there is no need to get this version for the sake of DD; the german version is NOT DD 5.1 as stated by the chinese :-)

No, the quality is different, even if ever so slight. Just because it is the same source, doesn't mean the quality is EXACTLY the same. You can go back to the original source, and encode at a "HIGHER BITRATE" (to make the DVD) to give you slightly better picture. Otherwise, there would be no need for DVD,SVCD,VCD, or DivX.

I"m sorry you can't see the difference...that's unfortunate of you. Several of us can. As for getting the DD5.1, life is about "choices". Just because you don't think DD5.1 is worthwhile, don't get it. I'm glad life and decisions don't revolve around what YOU think is best for everyone.

Move on...this topic is old and dead, and no one cares anymore. Those of us that wanted DD5.1 , got it, and *appreciate* it. And then there are those who criticize everything.......pick a camp. Or it seems you have.

Paula

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