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Neversoft
May 2002


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Like I said in another thread... If they really want to curb piracy they should offer a no-quibble money back guarantee if you walk out of a movie before the last ten minutes

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CruzBullit
Mar 2003

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Well after a few weeks of not having time to watch the film I finally got too last night.
What a great film, it’s truly original, great visual style, acting, casting, dircting.
I have a feeling it will be on my top ten list of the year in a couple months.

After the news this week that the MPAA will start sueing people who download movies on p2p networks, it's great to see someone with opinions like yours.

I do have a couple questions about the movie.
1) In the scene where Lenny is picking up Ethan at the airport why is Lenny holding a sign that says "ED" ?
2) In the scene where there's a fight with Mindy's husband once they've knock him out what is the music that's played? it's also played a little later in the movie.
3) Can you tell me anything about the cast? Where they fun to work with? Where they easy to cast?



Great movie! I’ll be waiting for your next one.

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Sven
Oct 2004


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questions/dvd/piracy

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Originally posted by CruzBullit


1) In the scene where Lenny is picking up Ethan at the airport why is Lenny holding a sign that says "ED" ?
2) In the scene where there's a fight with Mindy's husband once they've knock him out what is the music that's played? it's also played a little later in the movie.
3) Can you tell me anything about the cast? Where they fun to work with? Where they easy to cast?



1. The sign "E.D." stands for Ethan Dunn, the character name.
2. The music is an original composition by our composer Steven Gutheinz, you can download the track at http://www.stevengutheinz.com/news.htm. This is the third time that I am working with Steven and I really like his style and sense of music. For the recording of the track we used 8 live saxophones.
3. Casting was quite easy for this film. Zack was a sure thing. Once he walked through the casting door, he became Lenny. Tony Daly who played Ethan was a little tougher. He actually auditioned for the part of Lenny, we had a bunch of better known actors for Ethan, like a guy from "Popular", the guy from "Felicity" and one of the London brothers, but I really saw something in Tony Daly's auditions (passion, hunger) that I really liked. Jennifer Aspen, who plays "Mindy" made a part that was originally to be a straight very ambitious woman and gave it a lot of spunk. I really like that about her.

Mystic, you were asking about News on the DVD. End of November we are going to start the telecini/video mastering of the film. At this point I'm not a hundred percent sure when the distributor is planning to release the DVD, but I’m thinking about a special series to be made available through our website of a thousand or so by January. Let's call it the "Mystic Edition". It will have everything that the regular will have as well (both will have this discussion in the special feature section).

Back to piracy. I have received quite some feedback from some of my colleagues regarding this endeavor. Here is a quote from a fellow industry person: "Regarding the pirate website, I cannot stress strongly enough the potential damage of supporting piracy. It's one thing to discuss your film as a director, but quite another to welcome piracy in either a public or private venue. I urge you in the strongest terms to remove your postings, or at least publicly reverse them. It is untenable to support theft of intellectual property. The damage could be significant."

To that I respond. If you have a pirate copy of my film L.A. TWISTER pass it around. I feel that there is more good that has come out of this for the film (=awareness), than bad. A lot of people in the industry feel that way without publicly admitting it. I recognize that other filmmakers might feel different about their films; I say here is an example of how it can be very beneficial.

On that note, good times... back to writing.

Sven

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Mar 2004


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Re: questions/dvd/piracy

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Back to piracy. I have received quite some feedback from some of my colleagues regarding this endeavor. Here is a quote from a fellow industry person: "Regarding the pirate website, I cannot stress strongly enough the potential damage of supporting piracy. It's one thing to discuss your film as a director, but quite another to welcome piracy in either a public or private venue. I urge you in the strongest terms to remove your postings, or at least publicly reverse them. It is untenable to support theft of intellectual property. The damage could be significant."

To that I respond. If you have a pirate copy of my film L.A. TWISTER pass it around. I feel that there is more good that has come out of this for the film (=awareness), than bad. A lot of people in the industry feel that way without publicly admitting it. I recognize that other filmmakers might feel different about their films; I say here is an example of how it can be very beneficial.




My God! Sven, you are really going out on a limb with your involvement here. I sincerely respect that you are stating your opinions, and even advocating 'conditional piracy'. I am a bit concerned however that you are putting yourself at risk of being ostracized by the powers that be. As much as it pleases the majority of us to see that you have the marbles to take a stand, none here want to see a truly talented director throw away a burgeoning career. I guess I am just trying to say 'Be careful'.

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MarkMathers
Oct 2004


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I just saw this movie and i would just like to say, holy crap. This is the best movie of all time,ever. This movie hands down blows every other 'blockbuster' out of the water. God bless you sven.

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Nov 2004

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I have never seen this movie yet. But because of M$ now I will. The Bootleg Scene in my opinion is GREAT. Not Only Does it allow you to chose if you like the movie before wasting your money on it, it also allows you to watch movies in the comfort of your own house (I prefer my couches and my home theater over actually having to go out and sit in those uncomfortable chairs) that's my opinion personally. And Like Someone else mentioned, if it wasn't for the bootleg scene I would of never heard about this movie ever. A lot of times there are movies i hear about and I can't get my hands on them, but this scene makes it possible for me to view those movies. and for the records *Like everyone else that loves movies, I also buy ALL my favorite movies.

Sven what you've done is sweet man,
Much Respect.

Lye - fIve 1 Nina

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Re: questions/dvd/piracy

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Originally posted by Sven

To that I respond. If you have a pirate copy of my film L.A. TWISTER pass it around. I feel that there is more good that has come out of this for the film (=awareness), than bad. A lot of people in the industry feel that way without publicly admitting it. I recognize that other filmmakers might feel different about their films; I say here is an example of how it can be very beneficial.

On that note, good times... back to writing.

Sven



I am truly speechless. You're the man.

Like I said in my prior post, I will be buying this one for sure.

I can't say that I disagree with others about potential harm to your career though

I really hope things work out for you even after you make your stand here.

Take it easy Sven and thanks again for the entertaining movie.

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Re: questions/dvd/piracy

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End of November we are going to start the telecini/video mastering of the film. At this point I'm not a hundred percent sure when the distributor is planning to release the DVD...


Official DVD Store Release: 01/05
Scene DVD Release: 12/04

Just kidding!

That special edition sounds groovy, though give us some advance warning on the forum first, because if it's only a run of 1000, most of us who want the DVD will most likely miss out.

As for your comments re: piracy, i can only agree with everybody else by saying i am amazed at your stand on this whole thing. The industry needs more people like you to admit that piracy can be beneficial.

The only reason they cover it up (or in Paul WS Anderson's case) is because their movie is a piece of shit.

Example: Who in their right mind would waste even 1 cent on a piece of shit like You Got Served or The Day After Tomorrow? It's sad that most people have and will continue to do so.

p.s: Can i have Jennifer Aspen's phone number?

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May 2003


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Re: questions/dvd/piracy

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Originally posted by Sven

I feel that there is more good that has come out of this for the film (=awareness), than bad. A lot of people in the industry feel that way without publicly admitting it. I recognize that other filmmakers might feel different about their films; I say here is an example of how it can be very beneficial.

On that note, good times... back to writing.

Sven


amen to that if it wasent for this thread and your comments i wouldent be buying the dvd, i never go to the cinemas (its not my style) so the only way i watch films is via download or dvd, whichever comes sooner, so yeah thanx ill download the movie and if i enjoy it ill buy the dvd, heck ill buy the dvd just to see this thread on it (be something to show my grandkids lol)
nice to hear of someone in the industry willing to open their minds to new concepts.

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Jc100
May 2002


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Bit off topic. Its definitely wonderful to see a movie insider saying that seeing a movie is the most important aspect of viewership. Likewise, by his own admission, and contrary to the MPAA / RIAA.. traffic on his site has increased 3 fold on his website. Guess piracy is not all bad.

However sven, I hope you dont get blacklisted by those colleagues of yours. You got talent man, and itd be a shame for it to not be recognized. I would hope this would never happen, as it would show the true greed of the industry, but its all possible. You got all our support here man, I hope your movie makes it nationally. IE like Blair Witch. So far it hasnt, but that doesnt mean it wont. From the reception here, you take a hard stance, and Im sure everyone here would support you through thick or thin. Honesty spoken from the one making a movie, is better than that of some lame Holloywood Flop, blaming piracy for its bad debut. If piracy corrupts all, Why has pixar has successive blockbusters. All the movies they released do great. Maybe it isnt the so called pirates, but the lack of real inspired talent, likeyourself present to the industry... My 2 cents.

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Jun 2004


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hey sven, maybe u shud give ur fans of the movie priority on the dvd... like a pre-release to the ppl on vcdq.... i wud buy it definetely.... or sign them and put them out lol... id say the extras will b cool on the dvd, i look forward to many more movies by u..... its good to see a director thats not obsessed with money

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404notfound
May 2002


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Yes! Lets all give Sven our addresses after admitting we've seen illegal pirate material!

What a GREAT idea!

*cough*

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i havent admitted to anything sven u can send me a dvd

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sirspankalot
Jul 2002

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Re: questions/dvd/piracy

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Originally posted by Sven
Here is a quote from a fellow industry person: "Regarding the pirate website, I cannot stress strongly enough the potential damage of supporting piracy. It's one thing to discuss your film as a director, but quite another to welcome piracy in either a public or private venue. I urge you in the strongest terms to remove your postings, or at least publicly reverse them. It is untenable to support theft of intellectual property. The damage could be significant."

To that I respond. If you have a pirate copy of my film L.A. TWISTER pass it around. I feel that there is more good that has come out of this for the film (=awareness), than bad. A lot of people in the industry feel that way without publicly admitting it. I recognize that other filmmakers might feel different about their films; I say here is an example of how it can be very beneficial.

Sven [/B]


holy crap dude, you've got some balls. those big boys in hollywood have lots of leverage in many places. be careful what you say bro!

anyways, excellent movie! i'm all over the dvd whenever it comes out. look forward to seeing more of your work.

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psychoace
Sep 2002


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If you want to sven tell the morons who think piracy is bad for the industry to come over to my house and see the collection of dvd's i have. I have about 100 dvds that I bought myself with my own money because of vcdquality. I was never a big movie person untill i joined up on this site. Now I am a whore to the industry. I am sorry they can't make 200 million dollars off of surviving christmas but that is bad buisness on there part not ours

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Mystic Slippers
Jul 2002

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Perhaps Hollywood should also look at the wages they pay their 'staff'?

No more $20m paychecks or $9m entourage fee's and diva shit. Oh, and how about the execs taking a paycut?

Will any of this happen? Will it fuck.

But it's alright for them to target us, the people that put the wedge in their pockets in the first place.

Perhaps the industry should look at ITSELF first, before laying the blame on others. That is how it works in real life, but what we find true, Hollywood has a whole different view on it. It's how it's always been and always will be.

Me? I'll continue to download what the fuck i like, when the fuck i like. The key thing being, i BUY what i REALLY like.

I'm not giving some fat industry cunt my hard earned cash to blow on some piece of shit movie that by downloading the movie saved me money. Fuck you!

The only stance the industry takes that i DO agree on is targeting those that PROFIT from piracy. Especially the 'Alan' market salesmen you've all heard me moan about before.

Target sellers, not downloaders. Don't like it?

Suck my dick.

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Lord_Gandalf
Aug 2001


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Well.. thankfully I was finally able to watch this flick:

I'm not going to go all sappy and say this is the best movie I'v seen... because for my tastes it wasn't.

My tastes, however, cannot downside the quality of the film itself. The movie had so many great twist and turns it's forced me to watch it a 2nd time, which I'll admit is a very tough task to make a stubborn bitch like me sit through a film twice.

I think this movie proved that excellent film editing can lead to a brilliant film. I'm looking forward to my 2nd viewing to pick up the slack of the unknown which I'm certain I missed throughout the first shot, such as the 2 girls appearing several times.

Cheers from Canada,
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wow reading this whole thread was simply awesome. Sven, Cheers to you.
I will not let your hard work go to waste. plan on a purchased DVD from me.



RESPECT, sums up my feelings

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May 2002


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Suck my dick.




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OK...suppose I am going to have to see this flik...will wait for DVD if it's as good as people are saying...
I think piracy can have it's benefits for the film indistry I didn;t have that much interest in films before I started downloading now a few years later I have a collection of over 600 ORIGINAL titles. I download it..if it's good I buy it on dvd simple as that. If you making good films you have nothing to fear from online piracy. Same as the music industry, I downloaded Ian brown's new album a week before release but it didn't stop me queing all night to buy it on the day of release......

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