Typical Burger release, no info in the NFO. Would be nice to know what Burger is up to since apparently the retail release is only a single DVD. So I guess I can only assume that the movie was divded into 2 DVD-Rs... 8.6 gigs, sounds about right for no downsampling etc...

This however makes me wonder about the original retail!! 196mins on a single DVD?! I guess they save alot of bitrate because the movie is black and white?

Anyone care to shed some light on this Burger release?

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Judging from Disc 2 (still grabbing Disc 1 at the moment) this looks excellent. Only 1 of the 2 documentries on Disc 2 have been ripped out. Extras include a mini documentry on The Shoah Foundation, Cast/Crew Bios and a Look at Oskar Schindler (Text)Always loved the score for this film. The movie, well I'm sure everyone knows it and what its about. Excellent!

9/10/9

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porco, by the looks of it, the retail this release was ripped from was a flipper. On DISC2, in the chapter menu. Theres a caption at the bottom telling me that chapters 1-27 are on Side A. If thats the case, should'nt both sides be DVD5 then? Meaning nothing should have been ripped. or is it now possible to get DVD9 flippers?

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DVD9 Flippers have been about for quite some time there just not used very often as its cheaper to include 2 DVD9's than 1 DVD9 Flipper

My Ultimate version of Terminator 2 is a DVD9 Flipper

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DVD18 (dual sided/dual layer) certainly exists, but i can't say i know anything about the retail in this case.

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Ah yes!!! Flipper DVDs... I completely forgot about those, but that would be the answer to the 1 disc retail. In that case we might be staring down the barrel of a very nice release.

DTS tracks are terribly huge though, was it necessary for this talker of a movie to have it also? I know people will argue yes, but at 4.3gigs on a DVD-R, you dedicate upwards of 1.2 gigs of audio (for both DTS and 5.1), leaving the poor video to suffer on longer movies. I just wish Burger posted their bitrate/re-encode information in the NFO.

I will probably end up buying this movie anyways, I just like to have it before the stores haha... This way I can make up my mind before investing my hard earned cash.

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Well, I finally got this release and it is OK... For anyone interested, here is some more info on the release after I tore the VOBs apart.

Nice small menu and no extras on disc 1 allow for good bitrate on the actual movie. Disc one is 133 minutes and disc 2 is the rest (63 mins). Or so you'd think...

My beef with this release is the damn DTS track. Disc 1 is so long, and I swear groups already went over this during Pirates of the Caribbean. DTS tracks on long movies takes up TOO much space on the disc. And for a talker movie like this one, you don't even need it. 750 megs of DTS track could have been used in much better ways (ie: getting video bitrate from 3200kbit/sec average to maybe standard minimum average of 3700kbit/sec).

The video is blurred and some scenes pretty badly artifacted. Thankfully since this movie is black and white, it hid this OK (unless you zoom or look at it on a big TV/projector, then you see it).

I still have to get the original to do a comparison, but I already know where the difference will lay...

NOTE: This release is STRANGE too... The video is interlaced and progressive. Jumps between the two throughout the whole movie (switches 5-10 times a second around). Never saw this before. Don't know why they would want to make picture quality worse by doing that! I wonder if this is a magical Burger touch?

This is a buyer movie anyways, I shouldn't have even wasted my time on this release.

Video is a 6/10
Audio is N/A (since it is a 1:1 rip from the orig, it is perfect)

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Cant say i noticed any of the problems you mention about the video

i thought it was excellant

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The release is OK, but it could have been excellent. I am just too damn picky I've encoded one too many movies and spend too much time comparing original to my encode. After a while I just know exactly where to look. Doesn't mean this release sucks, I am just going to buy the movie cuz it's just one of those films for the "bought" shelf 8.6 gigs of download I could have avoided (MAN!! 10 years ago I'd download that much in a year! Now it was a day, geez).

But one thing is for sure, after watching the movie, the DTS track is useless! DD5.1 was more than enough.

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I thought this was a fantastic post. Looks great sounds great and an incredible movie!

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I agree the DTS track was not really needed, its not a movie that will benefit from a DTS track seems silly having one but even weirder that they decided to keep in on the DVD-R

I did watch in DTS and have not compared the the Dolby track but i can bet theres little difference if any

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