porco556
Jan 2003
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quote: Originally posted by Redemption1980
porco556, wouldn't say i agree with you on the 99% DVD Shrink thing, it usually only looks like ass once you go under 80%, but CCE at the same size will usually look better, though there are alot of people out there who think that programs like DVD Shrink/Clone DVD are better than CCE for low compression values, cant say i agree though, only ever use them if i need to re-encode menu's or rip out Audio tracks.
Well, of course this is open to discussion, and everyone has their own preference. But here is my take to further explain what I meant. *NOTE: Just in case, this post is not meant to harm anyone's feelings*
Even if a movie is 99% of the original, every frame has to be re-encoded with the algorithm/proggie of choice (whether it is DVDShrink or CCE). That percentage value DVDShrink spits out is completely irrelavent, as the video is re-encoded (either at 80% or 99%) and that is more of a percentage of the original size more than quality. Nobody can take a 4,590,000KB movie and make it 4,589,999KB movie and say it's quality is 99.9% of the original. Not even CCE or the greatest programs around. Most of these proggies used (including CCE) take the frame, uncompress it, and re-compress it from stratch as if it wasn't compressed at all (the algorithm fully chooses its bit allocation frame by frame and never looks at the original encode). As a result, all flaws which were found in the original retail, get re-encoded and usually become larger errors.
Basically what I am saying, if you don't like the work of DVDShrink at 80%, there isn't all that much difference at 99%. Granted though, I do agree that DVDShrink does get exponentially worse as the percentages go down as DVDShrinks encoding algorithm is cheap.
This really does go down to personal preference. My friends tell me also that DVDShrink "rocks" for small percentage downsampling, but I look at their encodes and I don't see it at all. But, if you like it and suits your needs, no need to spend 8 hours encoding a movie with CCE when you are completely happy with the 40 min job of DVDShrink.
Last edited by porco556 on 03-07-2005 at 09:31 PM
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