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Again 'MaxBitrate: 9.800 Mbps', tells me this isnt CCE either. I'm still waiting for a good copy of this.

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Lets let it drop, its a shit movie, couldn't give a crap if it was done with dvdshrink alpha 0.1 , anyone else propers this and i'll shank them. NO MORE 4.47GB WASTES OF SPACE ON THIS SHITTY MOVIE!

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Just like the other 2 copies , still interlaced , this one is actually worse then the other two.

Movie might be shit but i still have a wife who really wants to see it.

Anyone check the nfo for >> Fever.Pitch.internal.DVDR-MPTDVD . If so is it region 1 & properly encoded ? !

Once again avoid.

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Fever.Pitch.internal.DVDR-MPTDVD . If so is it region 1 & properly encoded ?

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MPTDVD is also 9800k MaxBitrate, I seriously need to know how these groups get 9800k MaxBitrate. Cause 'NO' CCE encodes do 9800, even the gui ones like DVDRecode. So please someone enlighten me.

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Shoot, I still use pulldown.exe from dos window lol. I never actually tried DoPullDown, but would like to know more.

ADDED: Someone told me people are using (www.shrinkto5.com) now. Man I hate one-clickers.

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the Fever.Pitch.internal.DVDR-MPTDVD copy is down under internal at the bottom nfo says its ntsc d9, cce6 pass, and in the notes it says it has 2 interlaced cells but its because they included the alternate ending or something which the rerip of the other group did not so thats why its internal

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Shoot, I still use pulldown.exe from dos window lol. I never actually tried DoPullDown, but would like to know more.

ADDED: Someone told me people are using (www.shrinkto5.com) now. Man I hate one-clickers.

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DoPullDown is a windows shell for the original DOS version. Both do the exact same thing (when the 3:2 is done, it says it stamps it at 9800). I am NOT sure why this is done, but if you look at the bitrate, it never hits 9800. I dunno though on this release, I've stayed REALLY far away from it It's too bad though, the movie doesn't look too bad...

One-clickers is a possibility of course And yep, they do suck. I dunno, the scene is dying a bit at a time and dual-layer discs are not any more affordable (like I thought they would be). Ah well.

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Well in cases like these I go for group recognition. Which would be MPTDVD, over NONAME and POOP. All 3 appear to be one-clickers from the 9800k MaxBitrate (like a 95% chance). If I like the movie, I'll go back and do it myself correctly.

My .02

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CCE 2.50 SP which is in my opinion still the best will stamp 9800 as bitrate when encoding VBR, Its a documented bug that dosnt harm the mpeg2 stream in any way, Dunno about the rest but this one is ok

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CCE 2.50 SP which is in my opinion still the best will stamp 9800 as bitrate when encoding VBR, Its a documented bug that dosnt harm the mpeg2 stream in any way, Dunno about the rest but this one is ok

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Ya we know you can encode 9800k with CCE. But with the 5.1 audio it will error out when muxing it with just about any program scenerarist, maestro, etc. So we want to know how they muxed it with 9800k

porco556 thinks its a pulldown method, I believe its not CCE at all.

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porco556 thinks its a pulldown method, I believe its not CCE at all.

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Which one click program stamps it as 9800000, its the first time ive heard that.

And CCE does stamp it as 9800000,( even if its a low bitrate encode) if you tick the DVD Video Compliant box in the Video Settings.

Sayin that though, this still looks a bit guff.

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Which one click program stamps it as 9800000, its the first time ive heard that.

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Any transcode keeps Maxbitrate, ie DVD Shrink, Shrinkto5, XCopy, so forth..

Yes in CCE u need to check DVD Compliant, but nothing will compile/mux it if you do. (Unless you only have 1 track of 2.0 audio).

DoPullDown didnt do it for me..

20:36:24 - enabling 2:3 pulldown
20:40:53 Total Frames = 129117
20:40:53 Total GOPS = 10871
20:40:53 Average bitrate = -462064595 bit/sec
20:40:53 - (MPEG stamped @ 2520000 bits/sec)
20:40:53 time taken = 269 seconds...
20:40:53 Pulldown finished!

This was just a 23.976 svcd i had available, maxframe is still the same.

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Wait... You said that was an SVCD. What is the max combined bitrate for one of those discs (SVCDs that is)? Was the encode at 2520000, or is that perhaps the max of a SVCD? I did an SVCD once using a program with an orange as a logo (DVD2SVCD maybe?)::

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So how do u mux? DVD Maestro gives me overbitrate errors like scenarist on 5.1 audio.

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I use Maestro only when I want the subtitles for a foreign file, or the menu (which I usually don't want, unless I can easily fit it onto the disc without encoding). But I get the max bitrate error, but I still can mux afterwards without problems (using version 2.9).

As for non menu, no subs work, I use TMPEG DVD Author I hear the screams already from people reading that. I do all my own chapters, and it works just fine for no menu, no subs. Easy as pie and works 100% of the time... It's actually the program I used after IFOEdit (since IFO edit screws up the clock on NTSC movies 100% of the time... However, IFOEdit WILL also MUX the 9800 stuff... Not to mention do subtitles also very easily)

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Out of the 2 CCE GUI programs, Doitfast and DVDReauthorist, neither do 9800k maxbitrate. And if you decide to do it by hand even, you wont be able to mux it correctly.

So as the saying goes for me...

If I see 9800k, I'm thinking Shrink programs. (Till someone proves me wrong)

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Out of the 2 CCE GUI programs, Doitfast and DVDReauthorist, neither do 9800k maxbitrate. And if you decide to do it by hand even, you wont be able to mux it correctly.

So as the saying goes for me...

If I see 9800k, I'm thinking Shrink programs. (Till someone proves me wrong)

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hehe, not sure how to convince you But all my encodes are stamped incorrectly (checked 5 of my recent 2.67 encodes and 1 of my 2.50SP encodes. All 9800 max). But I do it all by hand (using the RoBa guide from 2003 off of Doom 9... Which is what I started with. Used to be called the "getting the most out of CCE" one and was for CCE 2.50SP). But to recap, the bitrate is NEVER 9800 in any of my encodes. But as mentioned, I've seen some 9800 in PowerDVD on actual retail DVDs, but usually that would make my old stand alone stutter.

But we can go back and forth till the cows come home and actually get nowhere

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