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Aug 2001


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chaotic646
Sep 2004

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I wasn't too impressed by the video quality judging by the sample. Noticeable artifacts around the edges but I guess its because of the movie length. I'll be putting this movie on a dvd9.
7/9/?

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Dirty
May 2003

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is this R1?

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Chappy
Apr 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by Dirty
is this R1?

Going by the subs I'd say yes. I don't know why they wouldn't put that in the nfo as well as the number of encoding passes.

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XtremeX
Mar 2005

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APOCALYPSE is the best release of this so far, I think i'll stick with that one!

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biggbyte
Mar 2006

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excellent work by emerald as usual.

video quality suffers a bit as a result of 2+ hrs being squashed onto a dvdr, but ya can't do anything about that. it's still a real nice copy. looked good running at 1080i and very acceptable at 480p as well.

the 5.1 sounds excellent and the movie is great.

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B1NG0
Oct 2006


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Looks as good as the APOCALYPSE version, only differing slightly here & there.
The 'glitch' in the APOCALYPSE version appears at 1hr 16m, however, in this one there is a brief pause in exactly the same place in the movie but at 1hr 19m. Maybe this is due to where the layer break was/is - im not too sure at the moment, not had time to look a little deeper. (still watching it)
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?
Menu navigation seems odd on this, I hit play and I get this:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3949/vlcsnap2094743ld3.png

Then it jumps to this:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9382/vlcsnap2093468wj9.png

Then it just 'hangs'
Maybe its a R2 source?
I tested with VLC & power DVD, but i had more success with powerDVD which worked 8/10 times, VLC does'nt like it at all!
Damm those disney fast play menu's, they suck'didley'uck, lol
I've not burnt it yet, so dont know if it works in the players.

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Im looking forward to buying the DVD9 just to see why & what all these issues are for myself

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indydandy
Feb 2006

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quote:
Originally posted by B1NG0
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?



The difference in runtime is due to the difference in framerate between PAL and NTSC! PAL titles run approximately 4% quicker than their NTSC counterparts.

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ntscuser
May 2005


Mimzy

I'm guessing it's an issue with angles, as per Chicken Little? Disney use separate angles for each of the English, Spanish and French versions. Some players are more sensitive to the issue than others.

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A_T
Apr 2006

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quote:
Originally posted by B1NG0
Looks as good as the APOCALYPSE version, only differing slightly here & there.
The 'glitch' in the APOCALYPSE version appears at 1hr 16m, however, in this one there is a brief pause in exactly the same place in the movie but at 1hr 19m. Maybe this is due to where the layer break was/is - im not too sure at the moment, not had time to look a little deeper. (still watching it)
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?



PAL speedup.

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Mar 2004

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B1NG0
Oct 2006


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Thanks peeps, was'nt sure about that one

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_jadakiss
Jul 2005

jada

well.. we all know for a fact this isn't an R1 rip... maybe R2 ? ... who knows.. the bitrate is not that bad neither.. i mean considerin this movie over 2 1/2 hours isnt bad... im goin to hold off on this one till an R1 comes along...

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ntscuser
May 2005


Mimzy

quote:
Originally posted by _jadakiss
well.. we all know for a fact this isn't an R1 rip...
...and how do we know that?

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Reeves25k
May 2006

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correction to B1NG0's post the scene skip would be to the exact of 01:20:08 01:10:23 jumps to 01:22:05 01:108:26 for the emerald version

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XtremeX
Mar 2005

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quote:
Originally posted by indydandy
The difference in runtime is due to the difference in framerate between PAL and NTSC! PAL titles run approximately 4% quicker than their NTSC counterparts.


I think you mean 4% slower
25 fps - 30 fps

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ntscuser
May 2005


Mimzy

quote:
Originally posted by XtremeX
I think you mean 4% slower
25 fps - 30 fps

NTSC movies are recorded at 24fps, not 30 fps

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Resistance
Nov 2006

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quote:
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NTSC movies are recorded at 24fps, not 30 fps


Actually, NTSC movies run at 30 fps.

Saw this in theaters but looks good on my 50" TV upconverted to 720P.
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indydandy
Feb 2006

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quote:
Originally posted by XtremeX
I think you mean 4% slower
25 fps - 30 fps



Conventional film runs at 24 fps, a NTSC TV signal runs @30 fps (60 fields) and a PAL TV signal runs @25 fps (50 fields).

Normally, one half of an image is displayed and then the other half of the image is displayed. The net result is that 60 fields/sec become 30fps and 50 fields/sec become 25fps.

For a PAL display, the simple method when transferring film is to present the film frames at 25/second instead of 24 (the 4% speedup as mentioned in my previous post) and speed up the image to be synchronous with the images.

The solution for a NTSC display is to spread the 24 film frames across the 60 video fields by alternating the display of the first film frame for 2 video fields and the next film frame for 3 video fields.

That's the reason why PAL titles run 4% quicker and NTSC titles run for the same duration as the film.

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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Decent release, saw better, but not as bad a previous release.

Sound is spot on as expected though.

Too much of a Kids movie in parts, and sent me to sleep in the last 45mins

8/9/5

Film is recorded 24fps, PAL DVD's are sped up to 25fps, and NTSC DVD's are telecined to 30fps, but internally is still 24fps.

So PAL DVD's run faster than NTSC ones, not slower, which is why alot of people cant watch PAL stuff that hasnt been pitch corrected, and alot of people cant watch NTSC stuff as panning can be stuttery.

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