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Typical Burger release, no info in the NFO. Would be nice to know what Burger is up to since apparently the retail release is only a single DVD. So I guess I can only assume that the movie was divded into 2 DVD-Rs... 8.6 gigs, sounds about right for no downsampling etc...

This however makes me wonder about the original retail!! 196mins on a single DVD?! I guess they save alot of bitrate because the movie is black and white?

Anyone care to shed some light on this Burger release?

Judging from Disc 2 (still grabbing Disc 1 at the moment) this looks excellent. Only 1 of the 2 documentries on Disc 2 have been ripped out. Extras include a mini documentry on The Shoah Foundation, Cast/Crew Bios and a Look at Oskar Schindler (Text)Always loved the score for this film. The movie, well I'm sure everyone knows it and what its about. Excellent!

9/10/9

porco, by the looks of it, the retail this release was ripped from was a flipper. On DISC2, in the chapter menu. Theres a caption at the bottom telling me that chapters 1-27 are on Side A. If thats the case, should'nt both sides be DVD5 then? Meaning nothing should have been ripped. or is it now possible to get DVD9 flippers?

DVD9 Flippers have been about for quite some time there just not used very often as its cheaper to include 2 DVD9's than 1 DVD9 Flipper

My Ultimate version of Terminator 2 is a DVD9 Flipper

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DVD18 (dual sided/dual layer) certainly exists, but i can't say i know anything about the retail in this case.

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Ah yes!!! Flipper DVDs... I completely forgot about those, but that would be the answer to the 1 disc retail. In that case we might be staring down the barrel of a very nice release.

DTS tracks are terribly huge though, was it necessary for this talker of a movie to have it also? I know people will argue yes, but at 4.3gigs on a DVD-R, you dedicate upwards of 1.2 gigs of audio (for both DTS and 5.1), leaving the poor video to suffer on longer movies. I just wish Burger posted their bitrate/re-encode information in the NFO.

I will probably end up buying this movie anyways, I just like to have it before the stores haha... This way I can make up my mind before investing my hard earned cash.

Well, I finally got this release and it is OK... For anyone interested, here is some more info on the release after I tore the VOBs apart.

Nice small menu and no extras on disc 1 allow for good bitrate on the actual movie. Disc one is 133 minutes and disc 2 is the rest (63 mins). Or so you'd think...

My beef with this release is the damn DTS track. Disc 1 is so long, and I swear groups already went over this during Pirates of the Caribbean. DTS tracks on long movies takes up TOO much space on the disc. And for a talker movie like this one, you don't even need it. 750 megs of DTS track could have been used in much better ways (ie: getting video bitrate from 3200kbit/sec average to maybe standard minimum average of 3700kbit/sec).

The video is blurred and some scenes pretty badly artifacted. Thankfully since this movie is black and white, it hid this OK (unless you zoom or look at it on a big TV/projector, then you see it).

I still have to get the original to do a comparison, but I already know where the difference will lay...

NOTE: This release is STRANGE too... The video is interlaced and progressive. Jumps between the two throughout the whole movie (switches 5-10 times a second around). Never saw this before. Don't know why they would want to make picture quality worse by doing that! I wonder if this is a magical Burger touch?

This is a buyer movie anyways, I shouldn't have even wasted my time on this release.

Video is a 6/10
Audio is N/A (since it is a 1:1 rip from the orig, it is perfect)

Cant say i noticed any of the problems you mention about the video

i thought it was excellant

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The release is OK, but it could have been excellent. I am just too damn picky I've encoded one too many movies and spend too much time comparing original to my encode. After a while I just know exactly where to look. Doesn't mean this release sucks, I am just going to buy the movie cuz it's just one of those films for the "bought" shelf 8.6 gigs of download I could have avoided (MAN!! 10 years ago I'd download that much in a year! Now it was a day, geez).

But one thing is for sure, after watching the movie, the DTS track is useless! DD5.1 was more than enough.

I thought this was a fantastic post. Looks great sounds great and an incredible movie!

I agree the DTS track was not really needed, its not a movie that will benefit from a DTS track seems silly having one but even weirder that they decided to keep in on the DVD-R

I did watch in DTS and have not compared the the Dolby track but i can bet theres little difference if any

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