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Posted by commiewhore on 08-28-2004 04:55 AM:

where to begin.

telecine machines do not record with black bars on the sides, but russian pdvds DO.

whether that matters or not, i go blind reading the drama between grps

video = 7 ...colors are vibrant on cd1, still black bars, what the
hell is amatter here ? virtualdub or tmpgenc
takes 2 fucking mins to cut the black bars out
and fucking frameserve...whether this is a real
telecine source or not, there is no race on this
since the Screener is out...so fucking stop trying
to be cool and flame another grp and rush your
src, and try just being a grp, i think thats what the
people on the scene really care about.

audio = 7 ...again, not dts cd...get one, decode it, sync it.
screener audio was clearer.

movie = 5 ...kinda funny, made me laugh a bit, more for my
bitch though.


other than that, was this even needed? who knows, screener was more than enough....maybe TUN should be worried less bout grps and scene talking shit on them, and just be focused on rlsing on time and with quality....my two cents.


Posted by Mezt^Up on 08-28-2004 04:56 AM:

*edit*looks g00d but then again im drunk so ratings might be offf ill edit this when sobre

V: 8
A: 8
M: *edit* i dont know what i was thinking to give this movie a 9 lol...*6*

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Posted by Xlander on 08-28-2004 04:58 AM:

7.5/7/6

Video isn't that great of a TC...


Posted by tr1pp1n on 08-28-2004 05:19 AM:

wow, what a lame nfo... starting to sound like a videocd nfo from the beginning lol! anyways i doubt these kiddies were around to know what the scene used to be like, and this is a shit ass release.... go ahead quote me

6/7/5

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Posted by Ibegoat on 08-28-2004 05:22 AM:

This movie is kinda old, i was expecting a screener, or dvdrip. But whatever. This release aint bad, i dont understand how TUN manages to make Telecines look so shitty. Its better than any of the ts's but def isnt worth a download, a better release will be out soon. Sample looks fine, i'll rate the movie after i watch it.


6/8/?? --> the audio is damn good again, props to TUN for that.


::EDIT:: There is a screener out, I am a dumbass. This release is pointless.... a dvdrip is around the corner. Thanks for nothing TUN

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Posted by PiMpZta on 08-28-2004 05:23 AM:

BULLSH*T rls!!.........like cmon who releases a "shit movie" this late?......and cmon evn if u do......the quality should be pretty decent....but this......horrific!

V:6
A:6
M:2

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Posted by jmur on 08-28-2004 05:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ibegoat
This movie is kinda old, i was expecting a screener, or dvdrip. But whatever. This release aint bad, i dont understand how TUN manages to make Telecines look so shitty. Its better than any of the ts's but def isnt worth a download, a better release will be out soon. Sample looks fine, i'll rate the movie after i watch it.


6/8/?? --> the audio is damn good again, props to TUN for that.



if you look around you may just end up finding a screener. [snickers]


Posted by STrunk on 08-28-2004 06:40 AM:

I thought it was an ok tc..
6/7/8
and the nfo sounded like the dude who wrote it was on cocaine...Anyway sfk or wahtever there name is got served!

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Posted by HELLiON on 08-28-2004 08:41 AM:

6/6/6 original was better but really no need for this screener was out only a few days ago


Posted by stezo2k on 08-28-2004 09:17 AM:

suprisingly, i expected the quality to be pretty poor for a TUN release

Video - 8 quality was good, and is nice and bright, not as good as a telecene can get though

Sound - 9 As expected with a telecene, the audio quality is very good

Movie - 5, not my type of movie


Posted by yyiryyib on 08-28-2004 10:42 AM:


7/8/6 (the original was better, but isnt it always)


Posted by psyche on 08-28-2004 12:40 PM:

If TUN wants to be a well respected group they need to learn from past groups who have been on top of their game, once again I would have to refer to groups like THCiSO/TWCiSO/TCF/etc. and the list goes on. Ever since the beginning of this year the movie scene has gone down the gutter. This release should have been internal, I've rarely heard of a group releasing a TC after a screener unless it was absolutely necessary which in this case it isn't. And as for the SVCD point they tried to make in there nfo sounds like inexperienced or incompetent encoders because there is a thing such as max bitrate BUT then again they could have evened it out like the pro's do and fill 3x74min CD's and say for increased compatibility (hey there has to be some ppl out there with old school hp burners ) and that statement some have said about having the black bars on the sides saves quality is BS, although it isn't visible on a TV because video expands a bit more on a TV than on a PC monitor, bitrate is still being used on the black portion (a hefty amount also, similar to mpeg4, which uses more bitrate on black than on brighter colors). I've seen groups do amazing encodes@1600-1700 4-6 pass SVCD's than most of TUN's which seem like higher bitrate but lower passes or maybe they just need to stay away from DVD2SVCD. Anyway, another mediocre release from what coulda been a bundle of joy. 6/7/7


Posted by pabelo on 08-28-2004 02:21 PM:

:?

Realy.. .does annyone need this one... NO!!..

This is realy stupid.....why does TUN rel. so much thing we don`t need??

Realy... de videocd verson was nice... this one is ok ... Why did I download it..*aaaaarg...*

7/8/7 ... The movie is kinda cool..


Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-28-2004 02:23 PM:

quote:
This release should have been internal, I've rarely heard of a group releasing a TC after a screener


A good TC is generally better than a Screener which is usually from a VHS source FS, and encoded to VCD, where a TC can be damn near DVD quality usually WS and is almost always on SVCD.

quote:
and that statement some have said about having the black bars on the sides saves quality is BS, although it isn't visible on a TV because video expands a bit more on a TV than on a PC monitor, bitrate is still being used on the black portion (a hefty amount also, similar to mpeg4, which uses more bitrate on black than on brighter colors)


Sorry but thats complete shite, TV doesn't expand, part of the screen is hidden under the case.
Do you know how mpeg2 encoding works? it works on the differences between frames, a black screen has no difference at all, black bars use no bitrate.
Thats why a 2:35:1 SVCD looks better than a FS SVCD.

As for this release, its better than the screener Pic wise, sound could be better though.

8/7/6


Posted by vip3r on 08-28-2004 05:44 PM:

bleh, that's alll i have to say for this piece of crap

6.5/7/7


Posted by Miller on 08-28-2004 05:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
bleh, that's alll i have to say for this piece of crap

6.5/7/7




you stole my post
lol

crap no need of this
7/7/7

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Posted by Rep- on 08-28-2004 08:12 PM:

ok quality.... movie looks like crap though... 7/7/x


Posted by dark101 on 08-29-2004 01:00 AM:

one word. ->Why?

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Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-29-2004 02:04 AM:

quote:
one word. ->Why?


Whats the point in posting stuff like that

If its better than the previous release then its a valid release.


Posted by dark101 on 08-29-2004 07:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
Whats the point in posting stuff like that

If its better than the previous release then its a valid release.


See thats the problem the ts is better than the tc... something is wrong there.

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Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-29-2004 04:47 PM:

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See thats the problem the ts is better than the tc... something is wrong there


No its not, the TS is great quality, but this is better, not massively better, but it is the best release yet, excluding the DVDR.


Posted by dark101 on 08-30-2004 04:15 AM:

o well if ya think its better go have fun and dl, u know what i'll be doing.

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Posted by Clessy on 08-31-2004 02:11 AM:

Wtf is up with all the fake telecines latly?


Posted by Redemption1980 on 08-31-2004 02:26 AM:

Which fake TC's?

Ive been loving the TC's recently, near DVD quality very early after the cinema release.
The problem hasn't been they've been fake, just the encoding has been messed on a few.


Posted by Mr_Grinch on 08-31-2004 10:29 AM:

The screener was full screen, this is widescreen, that sells it enough for me. And there's no ticker.

The telesync was damn pretty but if you compare them side by side this is clearly (as it should be) better.

And I'm afraid I have to admit that I liked this film, and went to the cinema to see it... and will also likely buy it when it comes out.

Somebody shoot me.


Posted by GRAVESTORM on 09-06-2004 01:09 AM:

well personally this release is brilliant, better than the ts and also alot better than the shitty screener.

video 8
audio 9
film 7 (thought it was funny bette middler is kool)

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