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Posted by PMAtreides on 09-28-2004 09:41 AM:

uh oh

Here we go (again) .....DVD-9s. Are people actually downing 8GB+? My sites don't even take them....and at $8/blank (when bought in pack, at that), I understand why.


Posted by diekund on 09-28-2004 12:35 PM:

MSD just give it up. dupe after dupe after useless rls. i dont think any1 wants these, im sure ur affil sites dont even like them. dvd9 is not here yet, so give up


Posted by vip3r on 09-28-2004 01:20 PM:

This group is on crack. Plain and simple.


Posted by stroppy on 09-28-2004 02:16 PM:

Well.

It seems that i may be the only one appreciating such a release.

Yes, i will prob get flamed for this but i'm sure, when in 6 months time everyone is leeching and burning DVD9 DL dvdr, 8gig download wont be such an issue.

If CENTROPY were to release a DVD9 - everyone would praise their a$$.

MSD - thanks for this release. I hope there are many more to come.


And before lamers say - go buy the original, i buy 10 to 15 DVD's a month from retail and online stores. I put my money back into the industry.


Posted by H-Bomb on 09-28-2004 02:32 PM:

Come on people, you start to sound like my grandma, complaining for no reason. DVD9 is here stay. Have to start releasing at some point, right.

Stop asking "who's gonna download 9 gigs". 9 GB takes me 3 hours to download. No biggie.


Posted by sim111 on 09-28-2004 03:00 PM:

you know as to go ahead and even try and download a file that big i would rather just go out and buy the real thing, after all by the time you have bought the disk and so on , whats the point.


Posted by bcool2k on 09-28-2004 03:04 PM:

Well some of us actually have plenty of space. Never too late to be the first. DVD 9 will be the standard by next year. We have no probs with MSD on our sites. Mega props i'll take a DVD 9 dupe over a zillion cams any day


9/9/8


Posted by Air1 on 09-28-2004 03:15 PM:

MSD none of my sites. only one person i know who bought a dual-layer burner and i agree with the PMAtriedes that the discs, even in bulk cost waaaay too much for DVD9 rls's at this time. WAY too much.

bcool2k: you actually think this is gonna be standard next year? HAH! yeah right. the DVD-R scene just really, really started to take off just over a year ago. media for DVD9 is still gonna be waaay too expensive to be worth it when you can get reliable, long lasting dvd5 at less than 35 cents per disc. and who cares about stuff like foreign subtitles or extras (most ppl dont).

by the time the price on DVD9 burning media comes down, BLU-Ray and HD-DVD will be out and available (with both readers and writers out at the same time), anyway.


Posted by Ex Terrorist on 09-28-2004 03:25 PM:

I personally could'nt give a toss about extras. As long as the
video and sound is excellent, dvd 5 will do me for next few years
at least.

10/10/8


Posted by sp0ng3b0b on 09-28-2004 04:05 PM:

quote:
We here at Mossad have decided to start off the great DVDR scene with a new flavor of releases. As we all know DL DVD+Rs are out so now its time to move up and get the movies in DVD9 format but remember if you like it buy it.

if you like it buy it? blow smoke up someone elses ass. what incentive are you giving people to buy the fuckin thing when you are releasing a true 1:1 copy?


Posted by manofice on 09-28-2004 06:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
MSD none of my sites. only one person i know who bought a dual-layer burner and i agree with the PMAtriedes that the discs, even in bulk cost waaaay too much for DVD9 rls's at this time. WAY too much.

bcool2k: you actually think this is gonna be standard next year? HAH! yeah right. the DVD-R scene just really, really started to take off just over a year ago. media for DVD9 is still gonna be waaay too expensive to be worth it when you can get reliable, long lasting dvd5 at less than 35 cents per disc. and who cares about stuff like foreign subtitles or extras (most ppl dont).

by the time the price on DVD9 burning media comes down, BLU-Ray and HD-DVD will be out and available (with both readers and writers out at the same time), anyway.



Totally agree with ya. I'm straight with just my dvd+r burner. cheap media over 8 bucks a pop......and i only care about menus and the video and audio. i'm sure its a perfect 10/10/8 rls =P


Posted by Redemption1980 on 09-28-2004 06:26 PM:

quote:
if you like it buy it? blow smoke up someone elses ass. what incentive are you giving people to buy the fuckin thing when you are releasing a true 1:1 copy?


Exactly, I personally love extras, and find a lot more entertaining than the film itself, but if you want it all buy it, plus it be less hassle and sometimes less money to rent it and rip it yourself.

DVD+R DL is too expensive and still has compatibilty problems at the moment, and dont see it really taking off too well, it wont be until we have the DL DVD-R drives are out will we see the prices drop drastically, plus DVD-R is likely to work in more DVD Players, but they aren't likely to be out till next year.

MSD I would stop wasting your time as very few people will be bothering with these releases


Posted by J Fresh on 09-28-2004 08:58 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by sp0ng3b0b
if you like it buy it? blow smoke up someone elses ass. what incentive are you giving people to buy the fuckin thing when you are releasing a true 1:1 copy?


thank you, this is just encouraging piracy even more!

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Posted by WildFxP on 09-28-2004 09:53 PM:

Air1, you said how the dvd9s will drop price eventually, but by then the BLU-RAY + the HD discs will be out correct? Well think about it this way, when those are out, they will be the same price or more of the dvd9s are now, and the dvd9s will be the same as the dvd5. Am i right? I'm pretty sure we will go for the cheap discs, just like how cd-rs were before dvdrs, we would want the cd-rs first, then now the dvdrs price dropped and the dvd9s came out. Think about it first. I can be wrong, but just think.


Posted by bcool2k on 09-28-2004 09:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Air1
MSD none of my sites. only one person i know who bought a dual-layer burner and i agree with the PMAtriedes that the discs, even in bulk cost waaaay too much for DVD9 rls's at this time. WAY too much.

bcool2k: you actually think this is gonna be standard next year? HAH! yeah right. the DVD-R scene just really, really started to take off just over a year ago. media for DVD9 is still gonna be waaay too expensive to be worth it when you can get reliable, long lasting dvd5 at less than 35 cents per disc. and who cares about stuff like foreign subtitles or extras (most ppl dont).

by the time the price on DVD9 burning media comes down, BLU-Ray and HD-DVD will be out and available (with both readers and writers out at the same time), anyway.



Yes, Actually i do. I've already seen Games and movies released in DVD9. As for how long DVDR has been in the scene.LOL.U should see my archive sites. DVD9 will be the standard within a yr or two guaranteed. It has already begun. Easier than Downsampling and CCe passing to scene standards. Other groups will embrace it soon, and like i said. Makes a helluva difference if u want the extras


Posted by DmgInc on 09-28-2004 10:04 PM:

Again....

Not everyone burns them to physical media. There is a thing called an HTPC (Home Theater PC), I can either stream it from another server or download it straight to my HTPC and go. No burning and no media required.

Also, if you think 8GB is bad, check out the HDTV posts, they are 10GB for just the movie...and YES people are downloading them.


Posted by commiewhore on 09-28-2004 10:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by stroppy
Well.

It seems that i may be the only one appreciating such a release.

Yes, i will prob get flamed for this but i'm sure, when in 6 months time everyone is leeching and burning DVD9 DL dvdr, 8gig download wont be such an issue.

If CENTROPY were to release a DVD9 - everyone would praise their a$$.

MSD - thanks for this release. I hope there are many more to come.


And before lamers say - go buy the original, i buy 10 to 15 DVD's a month from retail and online stores. I put my money back into the industry.





are you kidding me ? rent it...blockbuster or netflix, works out to almost 1 buck or less a dvd rental now, and you tell me you would download 8+gb on your shitty cable ? on an .edu or better, maybe ....MAYBE if this was a pre dvd like a month early and it was a dvd9 ...it would be more accepted but this older movies at dvd9 is useless, just a dupe, just a rental, keep that shit in house, like newsgrps and .edu share crap...dont clutter scene with a dvd9 rls unless its pre otherwise no one wants it...and if you like the fucking movie, you should buy it, some poeple here do own films


Posted by sim111 on 09-28-2004 10:57 PM:

yeah i agree , 8g is a massive file, i just can`t justify downloading something like that .it must be easier to rip of the original for the sake of the wait.


Posted by Air1 on 09-28-2004 11:39 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by WildFxP
Air1, you said how the dvd9s will drop price eventually, but by then the BLU-RAY + the HD discs will be out correct? Well think about it this way, when those are out, they will be the same price or more of the dvd9s are now, and the dvd9s will be the same as the dvd5. Am i right? I'm pretty sure we will go for the cheap discs, just like how cd-rs were before dvdrs, we would want the cd-rs first, then now the dvdrs price dropped and the dvd9s came out. Think about it first. I can be wrong, but just think.


Yes you are kinda right but by the key point is obvious: --By That Time--


meaning right now these rls's really aren't needed. i still appreciate any/all groups trying to contriubute to the scene but for 95+% of people, no one cares about these DL rls's right now. in the future when HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are out? hell yes because the media for DVD9 probably will be well down by that point.

you're still looking at a huge file download, though, but then again you can always hope our internet download speeds will double by that time (a year or two into the future) which is very very possible.

at any rate, myself personally i'll be too caught up in HD-DVD/Blu-Ray. i'm going and voting for Blu-Ray and i'm going to buy 90% of the first 100 titles they release.


Posted by Air1 on 09-28-2004 11:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
As for how long DVDR has been in the scene.LOL.U should see my archive sites.


i never said DVD-R has only been around a little over a year, i said it REALLY TOOK OFF just over a year and by that i mean about a year and a half.


Posted by pHo on 09-29-2004 01:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bcool2k
Easier than Downsampling and CCe passing to scene standards. Other groups will embrace it soon, and like i said. Makes a helluva difference if u want the extras


i can't wait till all the new groups come out with even less skilled people! security at an all time low!

FAN-TAS-TIC!

and it'll be great when every retard has access to complete dvd9's, and when the MPAA start saying "its making a big dent in the money coming in" we'll have to agree, because it actually will for a change.

MSD still haven't released anything worthwhile. ever.

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Posted by Kleenx on 09-29-2004 02:53 AM:

ummm... why is everyone arguing about these DVD9 releases.
If you dont like them dont download them, if you do like them then go right ahead and download them. Its as simple as that, no need for all the BS!! They were bound to be released sooner or later.....


Posted by nomayo on 09-29-2004 06:03 AM:

never saw reason to jump in til now, but...

What about those of us who would like to do our own rip, and maybe watch the extras once on the pc before we rip and burn without them? As said before, what about HTPC users?

I personally like the idea of my own rips and the 8gb+ download doesn't bother me...

Of course... I'm not a siteop either...


Posted by infinityfsp2002 on 09-29-2004 08:08 AM:

MSD should stop releasing these shit unless its for a pre, this is just a crappy dupe. Anyone could upload this shit to sites...they are probably doing it for credits as well, laaame

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Posted by Happy13178 on 09-29-2004 01:30 PM:

For me, it's not just expense, it's time too. dunno about the rest of you, but I'm only on 5mbit....means twice the time downloading, added in with the cost of the media....you really might as well go buy the disc if it comes to that point. I know that other groups are going to release this stuff at some point regardless....the big question is how much of a demand will there be for it? Maybe if everyone's got this FIOS connection...


Posted by betamac on 09-29-2004 07:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Happy13178
For me, it's not just expense, it's time too. dunno about the rest of you, but I'm only on 5mbit....means twice the time downloading, added in with the cost of the media....you really might as well go buy the disc if it comes to that point. I know that other groups are going to release this stuff at some point regardless....the big question is how much of a demand will there be for it? Maybe if everyone's got this FIOS connection...


5MB lol

in the U.K most have 512K or MAX 1MB and i know loads who download DVDR

you just set it and forget it its not big deal downloading 8GB on a 1MB connrection its about 24 hours for 1 movie

so what you dont pay any extra for the amount of time it takes i would happily leave a 8GB movie going on my 1MB connection

as its still free and i will keep it on my HCPC until DVD9 blanks are cheap enough

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Posted by Robert Jones on 09-29-2004 11:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by betamac
5MB lol

in the U.K most have 512K or MAX 1MB and i know loads who download DVDR



*ahem* im in the uk and i have 1.5mbit plus i know a few people who have 3mb but thats about it.


Posted by betamac on 09-30-2004 01:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by virus_uk
*ahem* im in the uk and i have 1.5mbit plus i know a few people who have 3mb but thats about it.


Notice the word "most"

most people in UK are on 512k or 1MB

There are some with higher i know but not a majority

And unless you live near London (central Exchange) we wont be getting much higher until BT lay all the fibre optics they have begun laying

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Posted by 007-Bond on 09-30-2004 08:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Happy13178
Maybe if everyone's got this FIOS connection...


It's comming...

http://www.verizon.net/fios/

I hear they are testing in Texas 1st, and then Florida..
30Mb!! WooHoo!!

I think with in a couple of years, it will become as available as DSL/Cable (in the US anyway). And an 8GB or more download que really isn't too bad even at 1Mb.. I did it all the time, till I got 3Mb

But besides the download time, who wants to wait 45+ minutes to burn one??http://www.tomshardware.com/storage...cording-13.html

::BTW:: If ya got a liteon drive (even some 4x's) you can firmware hack them to burn DVD9's.


Posted by DigitalAngel on 09-30-2004 09:32 AM:

Was this originally a thread to rate a release?

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Posted by Arthur Daily on 09-30-2004 07:17 PM:

and theres more

The.Day.After.Tomorrow.2004.NTSC.DVD9.DVDR-MSD


Posted by kadnew on 09-30-2004 11:33 PM:

nice though The.Day.After.Tomorrow.2004.NTSC.DVD9.DVDR-MSD is pre-retail


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