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Posted by X69 on 11-19-2006 10:44 PM:

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Posted by chaotic646 on 11-19-2006 10:46 PM:

I wasn't too impressed by the video quality judging by the sample. Noticeable artifacts around the edges but I guess its because of the movie length. I'll be putting this movie on a dvd9.
7/9/?

Posted by Dirty on 11-19-2006 11:11 PM:

is this R1?

Posted by Chappy on 11-19-2006 11:18 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirty
is this R1?

Going by the subs I'd say yes. I don't know why they wouldn't put that in the nfo as well as the number of encoding passes.

Posted by XtremeX on 11-20-2006 03:14 AM:

APOCALYPSE is the best release of this so far, I think i'll stick with that one!

Posted by biggbyte on 11-20-2006 04:29 AM:

excellent work by emerald as usual.

video quality suffers a bit as a result of 2+ hrs being squashed onto a dvdr, but ya can't do anything about that. it's still a real nice copy. looked good running at 1080i and very acceptable at 480p as well.

the 5.1 sounds excellent and the movie is great.

8
9
9

Posted by B1NG0 on 11-20-2006 12:38 PM:

Looks as good as the APOCALYPSE version, only differing slightly here & there.
The 'glitch' in the APOCALYPSE version appears at 1hr 16m, however, in this one there is a brief pause in exactly the same place in the movie but at 1hr 19m. Maybe this is due to where the layer break was/is - im not too sure at the moment, not had time to look a little deeper. (still watching it)
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?
Menu navigation seems odd on this, I hit play and I get this:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3949/vlcsnap2094743ld3.png

Then it jumps to this:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9382/vlcsnap2093468wj9.png

Then it just 'hangs'
Maybe its a R2 source?
I tested with VLC & power DVD, but i had more success with powerDVD which worked 8/10 times, VLC does'nt like it at all!
Damm those disney fast play menu's, they suck'didley'uck, lol
I've not burnt it yet, so dont know if it works in the players.

V 8
A 9

Im looking forward to buying the DVD9 just to see why & what all these issues are for myself

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Posted by indydandy on 11-20-2006 01:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by B1NG0
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?

The difference in runtime is due to the difference in framerate between PAL and NTSC! PAL titles run approximately 4% quicker than their NTSC counterparts.

Posted by ntscuser on 11-20-2006 02:42 PM:

I'm guessing it's an issue with angles, as per Chicken Little? Disney use separate angles for each of the English, Spanish and French versions. Some players are more sensitive to the issue than others.

Posted by A_T on 11-20-2006 03:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by B1NG0
Looks as good as the APOCALYPSE version, only differing slightly here & there.
The 'glitch' in the APOCALYPSE version appears at 1hr 16m, however, in this one there is a brief pause in exactly the same place in the movie but at 1hr 19m. Maybe this is due to where the layer break was/is - im not too sure at the moment, not had time to look a little deeper. (still watching it)
Although The run times do seem to be different,
APOCALYPSE = 2h 24m 30s
EMERALD = 2h 30m 30s
Can anyone confirm this?

PAL speedup.

Posted by DeViT on 11-20-2006 04:56 PM:

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Posted by B1NG0 on 11-20-2006 06:42 PM:

Thanks peeps, was'nt sure about that one

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Posted by _jadakiss on 11-20-2006 08:46 PM:

well.. we all know for a fact this isn't an R1 rip... maybe R2 ? ... who knows.. the bitrate is not that bad neither.. i mean considerin this movie over 2 1/2 hours isnt bad... im goin to hold off on this one till an R1 comes along...

Video-8
Audio-9
Movie-10

Posted by ntscuser on 11-20-2006 09:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by _jadakiss
well.. we all know for a fact this isn't an R1 rip...

...and how do we know that?

Posted by Reeves25k on 11-20-2006 11:44 PM:

correction to B1NG0's post the scene skip would be to the exact of 01:20:08 01:10:23 jumps to 01:22:05 01:108:26 for the emerald version

Posted by XtremeX on 11-21-2006 12:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by indydandy
The difference in runtime is due to the difference in framerate between PAL and NTSC! PAL titles run approximately 4% quicker than their NTSC counterparts.

I think you mean 4% slower

25 fps - 30 fps

Posted by ntscuser on 11-21-2006 12:50 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by XtremeX
I think you mean 4% slower
25 fps - 30 fps

NTSC movies are recorded at 24fps, not 30 fps

Posted by Resistance on 11-21-2006 03:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
NTSC movies are recorded at 24fps, not 30 fps

Actually, NTSC movies run at 30 fps.

Saw this in theaters but looks good on my 50" TV upconverted to 720P.
V-9
A-10
M-10

Posted by indydandy on 11-21-2006 05:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by XtremeX
I think you mean 4% slower
25 fps - 30 fps

Conventional film runs at 24 fps, a NTSC TV signal runs @30 fps (60 fields) and a PAL TV signal runs @25 fps (50 fields).

Normally, one half of an image is displayed and then the other half of the image is displayed. The net result is that 60 fields/sec become 30fps and 50 fields/sec become 25fps.

For a PAL display, the simple method when transferring film is to present the film frames at 25/second instead of 24 (the 4% speedup as mentioned in my previous post) and speed up the image to be synchronous with the images.

The solution for a NTSC display is to spread the 24 film frames across the 60 video fields by alternating the display of the first film frame for 2 video fields and the next film frame for 3 video fields.

That's the reason why PAL titles run 4% quicker and NTSC titles run for the same duration as the film.

Posted by Redemption198 on 11-21-2006 02:47 PM:

Decent release, saw better, but not as bad a previous release.

Sound is spot on as expected though.

Too much of a Kids movie in parts, and sent me to sleep in the last 45mins

8/9/5

Film is recorded 24fps, PAL DVD's are sped up to 25fps, and NTSC DVD's are telecined to 30fps, but internally is still 24fps.

So PAL DVD's run faster than NTSC ones, not slower, which is why alot of people cant watch PAL stuff that hasnt been pitch corrected, and alot of people cant watch NTSC stuff as panning can be stuttery.

Posted by piebobs71 on 11-22-2006 12:02 AM:

ive just watched this after renting it from blockbuster and theres a glitch in the original at 1:16:59 gonna watch my sisters bought copy tomorrow to see if it happens there to.

Posted by Asterisk on 11-22-2006 12:39 AM:

I wish people wouldnt post if they don't know what they're talking about.

ntscuser - you have ntsc in your nick and you don't know what it is lol?
_judakiss - menu/subs sometimes give you an idea what region a dvd is. R2 is PAL so this can't possibly be R2.

Posted by ntscuser on 11-22-2006 12:58 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asterisk
I wish people wouldnt post if they don't know what they're talking about.

ntscuser - you have ntsc in your nick and you don't know what it is lol?

It was a rhetorical question. I knew full well it was a R1 disc but was trying to be polite.

Posted by Furious420 on 11-22-2006 01:10 AM:

I got the APOCALYPSE release about 4 days ago and burnt it, guess I will garbage that... Im going to go for the EMERALD DVD9 untouched that just came out now

Posted by _jadakiss on 11-22-2006 01:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Asterisk
I wish people wouldnt post if they don't know what they're talking about.

ntscuser - you have ntsc in your nick and you don't know what it is lol?
_judakiss - menu/subs sometimes give you an idea what region a dvd is. R2 is PAL so this can't possibly be R2.

exactly.. while this might not be an R2.. it CANT possibly be the R1 ... why ? .. like u said urself.. the menu.... look at it... i seriously doubt its an R1 menu... its crapy...

Posted by chaotic646 on 11-22-2006 02:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ntscuser
It was a rhetorical question. I knew full well it was a R1 disc but was trying to be polite.

I think he meant you have ntsc in your name but you didnt even know how many fps ntsc is.

Anyways like someone else mentioned there is a dvd9 version out now so thats definitely the one to get.

Posted by ntscuser on 11-22-2006 02:34 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by chaotic646
I think he meant you have ntsc in your name but you didnt even know how many fps ntsc is.

NTSC movies are recorded at 24fps. Extra picture fields are added during playback to create a 60Hz (interlaced) or 60fps (progressive scan) signal. The movie itself is still being run at 24fps which is why the runtime is longer than PAL movies which are speeded up to 25fps.

Posted by Reeves25k on 11-22-2006 08:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by piebobs71
ive just watched this after renting it from blockbuster and theres a glitch in the original at 1:16:59 gonna watch my sisters bought copy tomorrow to see if it happens there to.

lol i think your on glue its not even out at blockbuster till december 5th dont bs us lol

http://www.blockbuster.ca/movies/coming_soon.aspx

Posted by piebobs71 on 11-22-2006 11:54 AM:

Reeves25k the link you posted is for .ca canada? strangely all the glue i sniff is here in the uk

http://www.blockbuster.co.uk/144403/dvd.aspx

so maybe check things out first

Posted by Redemption198 on 11-22-2006 12:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Reeves25k
lol i think your on glue its not even out at blockbuster till december 5th dont bs us lol

http://www.blockbuster.ca/movies/coming_soon.aspx

http://www.blockbuster.co.uk/144403/dvd.aspx

Dont jump to conclusions so quickly

Posted by Carlitosbaby on 11-22-2006 02:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by _jadakiss
well.. we all know for a fact this isn't an R1 rip... maybe R2 ? ... who knows.. the bitrate is not that bad neither.. i mean considerin this movie over 2 1/2 hours isnt bad... im goin to hold off on this one till an R1 comes along...

Video-8
Audio-9
Movie-10

It is R1 stupid lol

Posted by ukiron on 11-23-2006 06:20 PM:

lets cut to the chase here.
nice rls not at all spoilt by the little glich during the film audio is also fine.
v 9
a 9
m8

Posted by DeViT on 11-28-2006 07:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by _jadakiss
exactly.. while this might not be an R2.. it CANT possibly be the R1 ... why ? .. like u said urself.. the menu.... look at it... i seriously doubt its an R1 menu... its crapy...

Funny way to make your mind up whether or not it is an R1!

A lot of PAL scene rls have shite menus because they are rentals!

To be honest the PAL retail of this film has been hashed by the DVD production house. Firstly a missed transition cell in the menu. You think it is supposed to go black when you press play? Nope you are supposed to fly into the compass at the top left of the screen!

The glitch is also present on my PAL retail. The glitch was made when the film was chopped into VOB IDs, the authour should be shot.

If anyone knows how to force an Open GOP at the beginning of VOBID 4 to CLOSED they could probably make a decent rip of this film!

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Posted by omega59 on 12-29-2006 02:00 PM:

yes i found glitches. throughout the damn movie nothing but particles or some type of image blotch!

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