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Posted by vip3r on 08-14-2004 01:08 PM:

I dunno about this release, it seems weird. Probably because it's an NTSC cam .. but the flicker is kinda bad (as stated in nfo) and in the sample when the guy moved his head, the image basically "dragged" across the screen .. i hope it isn't like this for all action/movement parts of the movie. Sound is actually good, not too hollow, quite crisp to be honest with ya. Anyways, this is a nice 1 week pre, grab it if you're in a rush, if not - wait.

7/7/? - From SAMPLE

Posted by EViL-EWoK on 08-14-2004 05:22 PM:

hey, not bad qual

7/7/x

nice nfo info tun. (lol)

Fun to read the messeges from the rls group. Sounds like you treat your people well, damn makes we want to contribute.
Thanks for the info, keep up the good work.

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Posted by terr on 08-14-2004 05:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by vip3r
I dunno about this release, it seems weird. Probably because it's an NTSC cam .. but the flicker is kinda bad (as stated in nfo) and in the sample when the guy moved his head, the image basically "dragged" across the screen .. i hope it isn't like this for all action/movement parts of the movie. Sound is actually good, not too hollow, quite crisp to be honest with ya. Anyways, this is a nice 1 week pre, grab it if you're in a rush, if not - wait.

7/7/? - From SAMPLE

What are you talking about because its a NTSC cam ??

but i'll give it a 7/6/8 movie is funny ;D

Posted by Orky on 08-14-2004 05:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by terr
What are you talking about because its a NTSC cam ??

but i'll give it a 7/6/8 movie is funny ;D

AFAIK NTSC runs at 29.97fps and the movie is shown in NTSCFILM or something at 24.97fps. A PAL camera on the otherhand would have captured at 25fps which is closer to source and thus reducing the flickering. I can not swear that this is true but it is what I think is correct. Sorry mods, havn't seen the sample so I can't give any ratings on it, just tried to explain the reason why the first guy talked about NTSC cam

If this info is incorrect, feel free to delete it.

edit: you are right. it IS incorrect. ntsc film runs at 23.976fps. pHo

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Posted by JK1 on 08-14-2004 06:04 PM:

its a cam what more can you expect ok i guess
6/6/6

Posted by Miller on 08-14-2004 06:48 PM:

this would be a great cam if it wasen't for the flickering. video is nice not to dark, a little fuzzy. audio is great for a cam.haven't watched much of the movie but it looks funny

6/8/? cam rating

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Posted by tr1pp1n on 08-14-2004 06:53 PM:

6/7/

picture reminds me of a tcf cam will definitly be skipping this not that anyone cares, but hey

still waiting for that mission impossible 3 workprint lol

edit: jmur its ok you wont understand, but good job taking that cheap shot... keep worshiping that 14 year old you pedo

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Posted by jmur on 08-14-2004 07:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tr1pp1n

still waiting for that mission impossible 3 workprint lol

uhm...why was that funny? im still trying to find the humor....

this release is ehhh..its nice that its a pre, so if youre person who HAS to see the first release of a movie that comes out, then obviously its for you, but if you can wait to see this movie, then id suggest waiting for a better release.
6/5/?

Posted by diekund on 08-14-2004 07:20 PM:

jeesus, www.kelkoo.co.uk TUN, go buy urself a PAL DV cam. i think the camera man has potential to be skilled at this, but his camera is a pos. like one of those old black sony cams the size of ur head as v1p3r said before, the picture drags a little, like when you set ur curser to drag but on a film. or when divx screws up. its not worth getting this i dont think, the flicker would give you a sore head im sure. audio is fine

video : 6
audio : 6
movie : looks good

well done tun on your first cap, keep it up (with ur new camera when u get it )

Posted by a1catraz on 08-14-2004 07:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by diekund
jeesus, www.kelkoo.co.uk TUN, go buy urself a PAL DV cam. i think the camera man has potential to be skilled at this, but his camera is a pos. like one of those old black sony cams the size of ur head as v1p3r said before, the picture drags a little, like when you set ur curser to drag but on a film. or when divx screws up. its not worth getting this i dont think, the flicker would give you a sore head im sure. audio is fine

video : 6
audio : 6
movie : looks good

well done tun on your first cap, keep it up (with ur new camera when u get it )

i think you should give them money to buy the camera, huh. what do you think?
6/7/?

Posted by Debo on 08-14-2004 08:36 PM:

so much flickering going on
6/6

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Posted by CARLlTOS on 08-14-2004 09:50 PM:

This is a nice pre, it doesnt comeout till august 20. I will give it a 7 for video and a 6 for audio

Posted by pabelo on 08-15-2004 03:27 AM:

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This is so cool... love it when movies are out b4 they hit the cinema (ok.. I live in Norway... so all movies are on dvd in the us b4 they come on the cinema here....:P )

I am not finish downloading it .. so I will not do a com. only on the image..

But.. realy ...all..... go and read the nfo.. its so big (I feel like I have read a book:P).

Posted by Fuckstain on 08-15-2004 05:50 AM:

why the hell is the official rating 5.0 and 4.0?

video is ok, audio is about average. and for being so early, shhiitt

i give it 7/7/x

Posted by Panthro on 08-15-2004 07:45 AM:

Nice on the Pre but the quality is not that good...funny as hell tho

Posted by AvaLoN on 08-15-2004 08:31 AM:

Not too bad!

This release is acturly not too bad, listen able audio, watchable picture, one week theathre pre & a good movie! Well done TUN! Keep them coming...

My rating is: 7 7 7

Posted by Tyranthaxis on 08-15-2004 05:47 PM:

decent cam-

V-7
A-5
M-?

sample played fine for me on PC
course i live in USA where the standered is the non standered for the rest of the world. NTSC.

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Posted by s0uThp4rk on 08-15-2004 08:08 PM:

good

I thought the audio was pretty good for a cam, and the vid qual was alright too.

6/7/5 - didnt find it as good as i thought, but still ok

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Posted by MTV on 08-15-2004 08:43 PM:

This isnt bad (based on full rls) if the flicker wasnt there it would be scoring level 8/8/8 the sound is v good for cam.pics good apart from you know wot.but you do seem to get used to it after a while.well worth a watch + nice to have before the rls date !!

7 / 8 / 8 . not bad cam at all. want to try A vs P ?

Posted by horizonstar on 08-15-2004 08:50 PM:

Note to TUN ...

Next time you ask us to read one of your NFOs, please write it in English!

kthx!

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Posted by dark101 on 08-15-2004 09:43 PM:

damn i havnt seen a nfo that big in awhile

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Posted by akakida on 08-15-2004 11:00 PM:

The video is pretty good for a CAM, besides the flicker, which isn't really bad.

The audio however is standard for a cam. Nonetheless not a bad release.

7/5/? waiting for better rls, good job on pre TUN.

Posted by Da Postman on 08-16-2004 01:15 AM:

Good quality CAM
V-7
S-5
M-5

I only wish I could see the whole thing. The poster did a lousy job, then I could give a better review.

Posted by HELLiON on 08-16-2004 01:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by horizonstar
Note to TUN ...

Next time you ask us to read one of your NFOs, please write it in English!

kthx!

uhhh it was in english....

Posted by Teasy on 08-16-2004 01:35 AM:

Wow quick release for this movie, which is excellent since I've been wanting to see it. Very good cam as well, good picture and very audible sound.

quote:
jmur its ok you wont understand, but good job taking that cheap shot... keep worshiping that 14 year old you pedo

Actually AFAIK Hilary Duff is 17.

Posted by BIGMANDOTCOM on 08-16-2004 02:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HELLiON
uhhh it was in english....

I agree......unless I am nuts and it was in another language and somehow understood it!!! As far as the movie good first pre- release and TUN did warn in the NFO about the flicker. Watched it and it was ok....V-7...A-8 and as far as maybe donating for better equipment for the group maybe let us know where to deposit?

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Posted by AcclaimedCritic on 08-16-2004 02:45 AM:

nice pre, better than the usual audio of cam's of late
7/6/8 - better than i expected

Posted by ElusiveHacker on 08-16-2004 10:07 AM:

eh quality not to good

5/6/8

Posted by Mr_Grinch on 08-16-2004 10:14 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by HELLiON
uhhh it was in english....

Release nice, very decent cam, little movement and pretty steady throughout.

And the nfo was BARELY English! Reads like someone wrote it, translated it to Spanish and then translated it back to English again.

Posted by frak on 08-16-2004 11:36 AM:

sound sucks.

I can deal with poor video - but poor sound is just far too
annoying to sit through.

however, props for getting this cam out fast.

Posted by joey_75051 on 08-16-2004 02:00 PM:

PoST WAS ERASED

Posted by joey_75051 on 08-16-2004 05:03 PM:

POST WAS ERASED

Posted by vip3r on 08-16-2004 07:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by joey_75051
AND IT IS A TELESYNC

Really? Uhhh, NO, it isn't.
To be honest with you, all your posts make no sense, they're worse than TUN's nfo.

(no im not flaming but COME ON)

Posted by AvaLoN on 08-16-2004 10:01 PM:

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And the nfo was BARELY English! Reads like someone wrote it, translated it to Spanish and then translated it back to English again.
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I dont see the problem really, as long as you BARELY understand it you shouldent be bitching/complaining or even make fun of it. You think all groups are AMERICANS or even the UK? No, they are not.. infact most groups are NOT AMERICAN (yes, i kno you guys have high thoughts of yourself) Im just trying to give you a clue! grps BARELY have americans in them... and if they do it dosent mean they would write there damn nfo.. LoL!!!

Just my 2 happy cent...

Posted by Teasy on 08-16-2004 10:26 PM:

quote:
imwatching it right now and all i have to say is quit whining guys this is good quality and a good movie you people need to stop whining.AND IT IS A TELESYNC

I see very few people whinning. Also this is absolutely NOT a Telesync. Its a cam, and a good one at that.

Posted by me101 on 08-16-2004 11:18 PM:

Does anyone know if there are major parts missing ???

Even though the nfo says that they missed some due to tape swappin...

Just got the first cd, now onto the second !

Posted by keam on 08-16-2004 11:46 PM:

without a paddle

just saw part of the movie.....but couldn't watch because of flickering. the movie looks pretty good. can't wait to see the whole thing.

movie rate 3/5/8

Posted by hahe on 08-16-2004 11:56 PM:

Saw the sample. Pretty good for a cam.

Video-7 Flicker isn't that bad
Sound-6
Movie-? Will probably watch later. Anyone know how much is missing?

EDIT-WOW that sample is misleading. Went to go watch the whole thing and there's motion blur galore. Not gonna watch it. Video-5

Posted by BLUE-NEO on 08-17-2004 03:29 AM:

Good Job Tun. This cam is very nice, for a cam it has decent audio slightly hollow, but overall good. The video well its a nice cam. Flickery like he was sitting next to the projection box. But its pretty decent, clearer at sometimes than at other. I did see a few scenes block up a few times, but mostly stayed clear.

7/6/6 movie was funny at times, but could have been better, nice pre-cam non the less.

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Posted by MBL4757 on 08-17-2004 04:32 AM:

7/7/8

Very funny flick, did have flickering on the sample on the CRT but no flicker on NTSC HdTV, thanks TUN, nice pre

Posted by petrocs on 08-17-2004 04:35 AM:

Re: without a paddle

quote:
Originally posted by keam
just saw part of the movie.....but couldn't watch because of flickering. the movie looks pretty good. can't wait to see the whole thing.

movie rate 3/5/8

How can you give a movie an 8 if you havent watched it yet?

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Posted by paleh0rse on 08-17-2004 05:00 AM:

Re: Re: without a paddle

quote:
Originally posted by petrocs
How can you give a movie an 8 if you havent watched it yet?

you have over 1600 posts and you STILL have to ask that question around here!?...

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Posted by lorddusty on 08-17-2004 05:58 AM:

Re: Re: Re: without a paddle

quote:
Originally posted by paleh0rse
you have over 1600 posts and you STILL have to ask that question around here!?...

Hmm you have 39 posts and can't fucking read well.. surprise, surprise. If you'll look at what he quoted it was X/X/8.. meaning he rated the movie an 8 from just seeing part of the movie, which is just retarted.. and I'm sure he knows wtf a sample is if that's what you're referencing in your reply.

For you dudes asking about the tape switch, it's maybe a min max.. you dont miss much except the initial hellos to the hotties in the tree.

Posted by rickhype on 08-17-2004 06:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by joey_75051
.AND IT IS A TELESYNC

what an idiot

have to say this isn't the best release and yes it
does have problems but overall it is a nice pre
and I stress pre. The movie could be better but
still a pretty funny movie

5/5/6.5

Posted by your name here on 08-17-2004 09:14 AM:

props on the early rls

video and audio make this very watchable

5/7/8.5

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Posted by horizonstar on 08-17-2004 08:26 PM:

Re: without a paddle

quote:
Originally posted by lorddusty
Hmm you have 39 posts and can't fucking read well.. surprise, surprise. If you'll look at what he quoted it was X/X/8.. meaning he rated the movie an 8 from just seeing part of the movie, which is just retarted.. and I'm sure he knows wtf a sample is if that's what you're referencing in your reply.

I think paleh0rse was actually trying to make a joke. He was wondering why such an experienced member as petrocs would be surprised that a typical VCDQ visitor would give the movie a rating without having yet seen it.

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Posted by lorddusty on 08-17-2004 08:40 PM:

hmm.. maybe , I like my version better though.

Posted by Lab on 08-18-2004 05:16 AM:

5/7/8

Good movie, worth the 800mb download, not grabbing the telesync, just waiting for the retail. Video looked crap to me, would've rated lower but this is an "early cam" rating .. overall I'd say maybe a 3/6 rating for a normal cam. Thanks TUN

Posted by Pickles on 08-18-2004 12:38 PM:

A very nice PRE. This cam is very watchable. I enjoyed the movie, in fact it was a helluva lot funnier than I thought it would be. Rating as a CAM i give it straight 7's

Posted by LuTioN_nc on 08-19-2004 07:53 AM:

not too bad 6/7/?

Posted by FastAssEG on 08-19-2004 08:49 AM:

Not bad for something not even in a theater yet. U have to get propz for that. The quality could be alot better though. The audio is not in sync with the movie. I have yet to watch the whole movie though.

5/3/?

Posted by mooseman2070 on 08-19-2004 05:24 PM:

pretty decent pre cam, 6/5/? movie looks promising

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Posted by geltoob4000 on 08-20-2004 09:48 PM:

5/5/8
Good job TUN

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Posted by protekt0r on 08-21-2004 11:16 PM:

I'm a little late on this one... but oh well.

Video: the colors are great. But, there's some ghosting. Possibly low frame rate? A little bit of pixelation too.

Sound: A bit holo, but VERY good for a CAM.

Movie: Funny as hell....

7/8/8

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Posted by jzmjr on 08-23-2004 05:57 PM:

not bad, i wonder when a ts is coming...
gj.

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A: 5
M: ?

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