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Posted by Rep- on 10-09-2003 09:07 PM:

bout the sme as that other one i would say, but this should be a lot more spread. ok pic and sound 6/6/x

Posted by EViL-EWoK on 10-09-2003 10:17 PM:

i also was wondering the case of stolen rls.
well this movie looks like a remake of a HK movie.
For those who watch HK movies you might understand what im saying.
The story seems plain and kinda dumb like Twins Effect.

well anyways nice workprint.
7/7/?
might watch this one.

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Posted by bird on 10-09-2003 10:19 PM:

Greate!

I was afraid i was never gonna find this movie. About time someone introduced it to the scene.
Dont know if this is the same release as the one floating around p2p networks, and to be honest, i couldnt care less.

Print looks excelent.

7/7/?

Posted by labrat1 on 10-09-2003 11:13 PM:

well this is nice its been split so i dont have to go messing around with cutting up a 1.2 gig mpg

same as other release

8/8/ expecting to be amazed

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Posted by drMabuse on 10-09-2003 11:42 PM:

and how nice it was to go back to old school p2p for a change. Yes this is same as the first version judging by comparing the sample ot the corresponding bit in my completed fast track movies version. Really really nice for a wp whichever you take, the ftm version is nice to burn to dvd at a one file 1.2 gig though so that gets my vote..

Posted by Mystic Slippers on 10-10-2003 01:06 AM:

...the problem is, the P2P folks were stupid and did not blur ANY of the serials. If Opium have blurred them...what's the point? Whoever stole it is now looking at jail time anyway.

Posted by elevated on 10-10-2003 01:12 AM:

blessed it be...
i cant imagine how this little gem out out..and on p2p!?
maybe someone is trying to get bit torrent some props...
bold move

7/7/10

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Posted by BestBoot on 10-10-2003 01:13 AM:

Video:7 Small Frame,Little Dark
Audio:?
Movie:? looks bad
this is better than fasttrackmovies

Posted by flex0r on 10-10-2003 01:18 AM:

Wow.

Wow after watching the sample @ my tvout i'm amazed, really respectable quality pic is kinda sharp and the sound is very clear, the only thing i'm really wondering about is what's so workprint about this, does any1 have any clue what the differences in this version are with the cinema one? cause it doesn't get here till end of november and i've been waiting for this too long already

7/7.5/?

Posted by SeeDee on 10-10-2003 01:36 AM:

8.5/8.5/?

only property label and scene breaks stopping this from a higher score (expected from a WP)

awsome pic, excellent sound, nice to see opium took time over it

ps, if this helps anyone, if u want to cut out the reel scenes i suggest u use mpeg editor v4.0. ondisk one cut points are :

1811-31321
31947-60452
61062-92701
93302-107910

hope that helps some1

Posted by neoparadox on 10-10-2003 03:08 AM:

10/9/?

quote:
Originally posted by SeeDee
8.5/8.5/?

only property label and scene breaks stopping this from a higher score (expected from a WP)

If that's supposed to be on a WP, then why did you give it a lower score because of it?

Posted by C0G0N3 on 10-10-2003 03:57 AM:

Nice! This isn't bad for a WORKPRINT, worth a watch.

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Posted by G-Unit on 10-10-2003 04:53 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
...the problem is, the P2P folks were stupid and did not blur ANY of the serials. If Opium have blurred them...what's the point? Whoever stole it is now looking at jail time anyway.

groups are stupid who dont blur serials....it gets me mad..heres a dude trying to help u guys watch shit for free...then he going to jail (lets say, the "supplier"..that is..)...........rls groups should go to jail for being dumb asses....

(but anyone on p2p dont know any better...)

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Posted by X400 on 10-10-2003 05:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by EViL-EWoK

well this movie looks like a remake of a HK movie.
For those who watch HK movies you might understand what im saying.
The story seems plain and kinda dumb like Twins Effect.

yeah it does but kill bill was being made a loong time ago i think i saw quentin on the sci fi channel talking about it like a year -year and a half ago, so maybe the hk one is just a copy

Posted by jaypayso on 10-10-2003 05:47 AM:

the movie is very DUMB everything is OVER DONE and the ending is retarted. I dont think this is the full movie if so it sux

7/7/1

Posted by Slinky on 10-10-2003 06:46 AM:

Cool

5/4/?

What's with the beeps at 8 and 9 min in?
This movie is f'ed up already heh

Posted by snozzler29 on 10-10-2003 08:17 AM:

looks good and sounds good

pitty about the black and white bits but what the hell its free

8/8/ not watched yet

:: edit- it IS actually supposed to have black and white scenes in it. -M$

Posted by Ten98 on 10-10-2003 08:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mystic Slippers
...the problem is, the P2P folks were stupid and did not blur ANY of the serials. If Opium have blurred them...what's the point? Whoever stole it is now looking at jail time anyway.

This is just plain funny. How is a serial number going to allow them to track down who stole it?

Sure, they might be able to know when, where and maybe even who it was taken from, but that information is pretty much useless.

This movie was ripped by one person, probably on Windows Movie Maker or something similar. Someone who had no knowledge of the scene, no knowledge of splitting files to fit on VCD etc, and uploaded on Kazaa anonymously. (All that the group fasttrack movies does is find releases already on Kazaa and point users towards them on their website, they didn't put this move out.)

There's a rumour flying around that it might have even been Tarrantino himself that posted this, I'd like to see them arrest him for violating his own copyrights :P

::edit- Idiot. -M$
::edit- Dumbass -rPa

Posted by LOLobo on 10-10-2003 09:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by jaypayso
the movie is very DUMB everything is OVER DONE and the ending is retarted. I dont think this is the full movie if so it sux

It makes my day to find yet another n00b that proves within his first 5 posts how “retar*t*ed” they are themselves.

If you don’t think that this is the full movie, apparently you have not yet watched this group’s release. So WTF about the quality are you posting?

You say the “movie is very DUMB everything is OVER DONE and the ending is retar*t*ed.” Why not explain how is it dumb, what exactly is over done, and how the ending is . . . dare I say it again . . . retar*t*ed.

Your vague retar*t*ed claims are invalid until you back them up with some detail. Period. Don’t make me school you.

::Sorry mods, these posts make me want kick the sh!t out of anyone that is this annoying. I am almost done d/l this release and will edit this post to include details about the quality after I finish watching it tomorrow night.

Posted by psyche on 10-10-2003 09:54 AM:

This looks more like a screener than videocd's stuff but I respect FTM for labeling it so. I wouldn't be surprised if this was an academy screener since miramax is one of the few studios who didn't agree with the MPAA's ban on screeners for academy members. Not bad FTM, and no props to you OPiUM (TWC's shit group just like ESO is to TCF)... tsk tsk, 7/7/9

Posted by Terminator800 on 10-10-2003 09:55 AM:

Video quality is pretty decent, would've looked more clear if it were SVCD. It goes blk & white in the scene where she fights 100 men, but snaps out when she blinks. I guess this was intentional.

The audio is very nice, loud, clear and crisp. Some dialogue gets bleeped out. I first thought it was because of bad words, but she used bad words throughout the movie with no bleep.

The movie itself in my opinion was really corny and stupid. It had a few cool moments, most notably, when she fought Vivica Fox. I thought the martial arts action was just a joke. The camera wouldn't focus clearly on the movement because the actors can't pull the moves off. I also didn't like how they completely ripped off the Jet Li style he uses in his HK films with the rope or belt. It was just plain boring and goofy. I didn't dig it, but one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

All in all, decent release in terms of A/V.

Posted by Naughty_Sauce on 10-10-2003 10:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Slinky
Cool

5/4/?

What's with the beeps at 8 and 9 min in?
This movie is f'ed up already heh

Quentin did that on purpose. He wanted Uma's character to be known only as The Bride. So whenever anybody refers to her by her actual name it's bleeped out.

weird.

I've been watching a few minutes here and there. I don't want to see anymore until I catch it at the theater tomorrow, but I can't help myself. I have no self-control!!!

Posted by Neversoft on 10-10-2003 11:03 AM:

Same copy as the P2P version, just not such a bastard to find anymore

Pretty much unaltered from the FTM version except it's been split into two cd's. Quality is nice, maybe a bit blurry but def good enough to watch. Audio (as mentioed in the other thread) is very nice.

I'll stick with my original score from the FTM version: 6/8/Dunno

... Now I have to try and NOT watch this before I see it at the cinema

::edit

I couldn't resist, this movie is FUCKING AMAZING. Apparently the big B&W scene is supposed to be B&W though I'm not convinced. I'm seeing this bitch in the cinema, if the final edit is better than the WP I may have to tear my eyes out after seeing it so my eyes aren't polluted with lesser movies in years to come.

Revised score: 7/8/10

Posted by teegee420 on 10-10-2003 12:06 PM:

Damned fine release. Damned fine film.

Video- 7
Sound- 8
Movie- 10

Posted by Joppo on 10-10-2003 02:22 PM:

After wathching CD 1 on the TV With all I can say is WOW

Id give it

7.5/8/? Still waiting to watch Disc 2 any minute now and this

is definalty a movie to be seen at the Cinema. Im definatly going

next week when its out.

Oh and thanx Hypo for telling me the ending that I didnt now

Posted by Spunko on 10-11-2003 12:37 AM:

absolutely splendid release A bit flickery from time to time but definetely a keeper and a great movie, one to watch again methinks

8/8/9

Posted by acme420 on 10-11-2003 01:21 AM:

judging from the sample i give it 8/9/?

Im grabbin it now cant wait to watch the movie

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Posted by G-Unit on 10-11-2003 01:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ten98
This is just plain funny. How is a serial number going to allow them to track down who stole it?

LMAO at this comment.....

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Posted by misfits138 on 10-11-2003 02:31 AM:

the bad frame rate kinda screwed up the action scenes... its watchable but i'd give the video a 6.
sound is clear but you can tell its not what the complete movie will sound like... or maybe it will... tarantino can be pretty damn strange.
movie is very bloody and very weird.

Posted by brainguy on 10-11-2003 03:04 AM:

Great movie! Was too tempted to watch it before watching this at the theatre. Finally I gave up and took a sneak-peek! Can't wait to watch it in the big screen.

Nice release. Except for the delay while changing reels, everything was great. But that is negligible considering the fact t you get to watch it before going to the movies.

I did give it 7.5/8/9.

Posted by DarkSoul on 10-11-2003 04:44 AM:

hmmm I saw the entire movie...

not bad video source .... audio is good ....

but the movie itself ??? I love that mexican-japanese-style LOL but that all...

the rest is like a REVENGE ONLY MOVIE .... nothing more ... and the best ... keep that story alive with part II ... POOR ....

Ive expected MUCH more .... but this is only a sword, blood fontain movie .... without a storyline .. POOR .. uhh i said that

Posted by Heflink on 10-11-2003 06:15 AM:

I think I'm the only one who liked this movie. Release was awesome, video is at least a 7, a bit grainy but wicked quality for a WP. Audio seemed a bit quiet, but undistorted.

7/7/9

Posted by Bakkoda on 10-11-2003 09:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ten98

There's a rumour flying around that it might have even been Tarrantino himself that posted this, I'd like to see them arrest him for violating his own copyrights :P

Thank you. I thought I was gonna be laugh free all day.

btw... 7/8/GO SEE IT IN THE THEATRES!!!!

Posted by bobafatass on 10-11-2003 10:56 AM:

Great little release, better than a telesync.

8/8/9

Posted by Bob Cock on 10-11-2003 11:00 AM:

This film is so exceptionally good that I am compelled to invent a term to articulate the feeling I felt when I experienced it, right now...."FANASPLENDASTIC" This film is so "FANASPLENDASTIC" that I can hardly move.

As for the OPiuM package itself:

- The picture is grainy (but not uncharacteristically for a WP)
- Colour is pretty good
- The sound has a bit of the ol' digital clipping howl, but it's fairly unobtrusive

RATING: 7.3/7.8/9.1

* I did, for whatever reason, experience some playback issues - a mild bit of stuttering and a/v desync. I'm not sure why this happened, as my player doesn't usually perform badly and the burn was completed at 4x's with Fireburner (with few background processes running and the modem disconnected). Someone was complaining that the MPEG encoding was done with the frame-rate set below 24fps. I'm not sure if this would cause these playback problems or not, but in any case, the film was still quite watchable.

My Two and 3/4 bitz

While it is unfortunate that the Weinstein posse decided to go for the cash-grab and spread the story out over two films, this should not take away from the brilliance of what is offered in Vol 1.

There is so much good, pure, un-self-conscious entertainment in this film. Quentin has made a film out of films that he loves and has made his film with that same love. It's fun, it's attractively and creatively shot and above all, it is fresh.

...You won't see another film with as much, "fuck it, I just wanna see some crazy, cool, shit up on the screen and I don't give a fat rat's ass 'bout how much it costs, who's gonna see it, or if anyone will like it but me" balls that Tarrantino has shown in making this flick.

Mad propz to Q for lighting a M-80 under the fat-arses of H-Wood and the so-called dissaffected, Vico-dazed, 'Indy film' scene which he helped create...Q shows how it's done: an independent film is independent for reasons other than financing - it is its' originality & unique perspective, KILL BILL V1 has both in spades.

This film begs to be seen in the theatre...so I'm going, I hope the rest of you do too.

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Posted by Jc100 on 10-11-2003 12:32 PM:

Just wonderin, but the frame rate seems off. It appears to be slow motion from what i scanned in cd2.. Like its motion but with to few frames.. and the fact that this group re-encoded it to 29.97 made no fucking difference. That would just add empty frames and make it more choppy. Wonder if but a few people have seen the damn film or parts and not just the fucking sample. Anyone else want to comment on the frame issue? Is it my vision or does it truly appear slow in some parts like video just ISNT right... As a result , people voting over a 7 should be shot. But im not a mod, and even they cant get rid of the morons ( they just come back under a new name).

Posted by Vaffanculo on 10-11-2003 12:56 PM:

Jerk-O-Rama

whoever is voting high for this movie must only have seen screenshots. this jerkfest is a pain in the ass to watch, i stopped after only 5 minutes. whoever encoded it must have been on some bad drugs, and as it apears, most voters here must to. Props for speed, but wtf. This release is worthless. 2/7/?

Posted by Chuffster on 10-11-2003 01:46 PM:

Pic 7,Sound 7,film 1!

What an overated pile of shite!
The film switches to black and white in heavy gore scenes so that it could get an R rating!The MPAA don`t like to see the colour of blood!The Japanese print will be in full colour.

Posted by Div on 10-11-2003 01:59 PM:

Quality: 7/5/8

Posted by Klonin on 10-11-2003 03:19 PM:

Sound

Sound was left side only. And what the hell is up with the cartoon parts. Is this part of Tarantino's plan? Ending was a nice lead out for Vol 2. For the idiots who think that it is retarded maybe need to look up what volumes are.

Video - 7 blurred during fight scenes...
Audio - 6 - left side
Flix - 9

Posted by SharkeysMachine on 10-11-2003 05:01 PM:

Movie was great will definetly be going to see it again in the theater...

Vid- Yes the framrate is a bit funky but i hardly noticed it once i got into the movie, just a few scenes it seems to stand out. The scenes that are black/white...guess what? There was supposed to be in black and white, and the scenes with the 4,3,2,1... are supposed to be there, because its a....WORKING PRINT. Other than that not bad, better than most Wp's i've seen

Audio- No real problems, the fucking beeping is supposed to be there you idiots, he doens't want people to know her real name people have already posted about this jeez...

As i said i liked the movie, but its not for everyone. Yes certain aspects of the movie were overdone, but they were supposed to be. Don't slam the film though saying its a piece of crap, when you don't even know what Tarintino was going for with this film, he wanted to pay homage to the movies he loved as a kid, and he's done a fine job so far with Kill Bill imo...

6/7/10

Would like to see some swordplay from Sonny Chiba in pt2 but i don't think thats gonna happen....Still he ownz you all

Posted by Mista SYN on 10-11-2003 05:21 PM:

Well after watching this release and going to the theatre and watching that release, all my misunderstandings have been cleared... First off Chapter 1 (2) is at the beginning of the movie. Its classic Tarentino, that the story jumps around back and forth. Second the beginning and the fight in the restaurant, the scene reminiscent of the Matrix Reloaded, is also in black and white. Also, yeah the ending is meant to leave you hanging. This release to me is almost flawless, except for the annoying frame counter between scenes (the countdown 8, 7, 6...beep, scene). Those scenes are noticable in the theatre version, if there is a way for someone to splice those out, you would have the theatre version.

Posted by acme420 on 10-11-2003 08:49 PM:

Re: Jerk-O-Rama

quote:
Originally posted by Vaffanculo
whoever is voting high for this movie must only have seen screenshots. this jerkfest is a pain in the ass to watch, i stopped after only 5 minutes. whoever encoded it must have been on some bad drugs, and as it apears, most voters here must to. Props for speed, but wtf. This release is worthless. 2/7/?

you must have a shitty dvd player or something theres nothing wrong with this movie. I burned it to dvd and watched it in my dvd player and it was quite perfect. no stuterring, the sound was great, and the picture was very clear. Vhs quality. it didnt jerk one time.

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Posted by ramp on 10-11-2003 09:07 PM:

leave it to a release that spawned from p2p networks to spark all kinds of ridiculous n00b comments, fucking b&W because it's a workprint, not because it's too gory, beeping because of reel changes, not because of uma's name, JC.......

video: 6 - workprint, shit is always compromised
audio: 7 - good for a WP
movie: 9 - but go see the fucker in the theater!!!!

Posted by wrkr on 10-11-2003 10:42 PM:

great movie, I'll be intrested to see how the wp cut compares to the final.

6/8/8

Posted by Mista SYN on 10-11-2003 11:40 PM:

Ramp, you are fucking wrong this tyme man. The reason it beeps on the workprint.....is because it beeps in the actual flick at the movies. The reason it turns B&W is because it turns B&W at the movies. What ya'll see on the workprint, is actually whats in the theatre release. The only bullshyt that only on the workprint, is the countdown between scenes.

Posted by XXXBoX on 10-12-2003 01:13 AM:

*slaps the encoder*

He/she could have done a better job on this awesome film!

Props for the quick release! I have played this on a VCD player and a DVD player and both seemed slightly outta sync! It was noticeable in the first few scene when uma is kickin off with vivica! Also the encoding job the guy/gal did made this film slightly jerky! Again its most noticable when uma pulls up outside vivicas house!

anyhow ratings

Picture: 8

Audio: 8

Movie: 9

Posted by LOLobo on 10-12-2003 02:01 AM:

Re: Jerk-O-Rama

quote:
Originally posted by Vaffanculo
whoever is voting high for this movie must only have seen screenshots. this jerkfest is a pain in the ass to watch, i stopped after only 5 minutes. whoever encoded it must have been on some bad drugs, and as it apears, most voters here must to. Props for speed, but wtf. This release is worthless. 2/7/?

/me scalps Vaffanculo dead for having culo breath and saying something so false and stinky.

I love these guys that watch so little and judge so much.

On to my rating...

Video:
VHS quality. Get a better DVD player and/or media for those that think otherwise. A pretty good encoding job compared to other sh!t I've seen lately. Couldn't do anything about reel changes, so not counted against video. [8]

Audio:
Good enough, not too loud. In fact I turned it up a lil' [9]

Movie:
WTF? My wife acutually like a Taratino film for once. If you liked Pulp Fiction, this is nothing like it. Pulp was for the witty dialogue and this is for the blood and sword play. I disliked the b&w during some of the fighting scenes, I just hope that when DVD is released we have some type of director's cut that might let me see how *red* the scenes were. Good story, can't wait for Vol. 2. [10]

Now if you'd excuse me . . .
/me offers Lucy Liu extra freckles, color of pearl.

Posted by mike695577 on 10-12-2003 02:15 AM:

Audio - 7 - A bit out of sync at times, but not that noticable
Video - 7 - A little blurry, but not bad for a VCD
Movie - 7 - Personally, i was a bit disappointed

Overall, this movie and version is more than worth the download. The timers disappear early on. For whatever reason, the movie just stops, goes to a black screen, and then starts a 8 sec countdown, before it continues. That was a tad annoying, but it only happens a handful of times throughout the movie. Nice release for being so early.

Posted by Deli on 10-12-2003 03:06 AM:

I've actually got the FTM version, but since most comments are in this thread I thought I'd post this in here:

Can anybody that actually knows about the B&W scene please clear this up...........perhaps somebody thats seen it in the Theater?
(I'm not disrespecting anybody thats posted in here.....but everybody has conflicting reasons and disagrees as to whether it is intentional or not.)

I was convinced it was intentional, because it seemed so in sync with the action, but then on the trailer there is a moment in that B&W scene thats shown in colour.!?

Also the two beeps are nothing to do with reel changes as ramp mentioned above.........the beeps they were referring to occur when the Bride's name is mentioned.

Posted by AAjax on 10-12-2003 03:31 AM:

Wow, quick and nice
video 8, clean pic especially for a wp

Sound 7, might just be my amp but kinda flat

Movie 8, different to the extreme cant wait to see how the wp compares to the theater release

Posted by Jdigital03 on 10-12-2003 03:36 AM:

simply awesome is about all i can say way better than any TS anyday of the week

8/7/12

movie by far the best money ive spent @ the box office all year long

Posted by t-p on 10-12-2003 03:38 AM:

7/8/9

a amazing movie, prolly one of the better 5 releases of the year so far.

not to mention lucy looks quite nice in this film

Posted by DrunkMonk420 on 10-12-2003 05:54 AM:

this movie is awesome.. as soon as i was done downloading this i went and burnt it to cd to watch it on my dvd player. you should try burning it at a slower speed.. like 4x, just to make sure you get the best transfer. and anyone who says this movie is bad, is as dumb as jessica simpson. tarantino is a great film maker and this film seals the deal, thats for damn sure...

7.5/8.5/10

Posted by xer0mark on 10-12-2003 07:25 AM:

Here's what I think

workprints from films that are edited digitally on NLEs are better in quality than from films that are edited on film. 'Probably why this one has no marks or writing on it.

This WP may have been made from a 24frame HD transfer after it was edited with DVCPRO or something.

Posted by DrKupo on 10-12-2003 05:42 PM:

8/8/10

The movie was very good, and i don't know what you are people are saying about the framerate. Its fine.

Posted by Deli on 10-12-2003 11:27 PM:

ok no need to answer my earlier question............

somebody posted the original script in the movies forum.
(http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~alexward/script.htm) even if you've seen KB dont scroll all the way down as KB volume 2 is included in the script.

It mentions that scene and that it is intentionally in high-res B&W to make the blood look black and oily.

The worry that that scene was supposed to be in colour was one of my main gripes, I didn't mind the 8 second countdowns too much................so that leaves me with only one problem with it.....the framerate.

Posted by kakarot12300 on 10-13-2003 06:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Naughty_Sauce
Quentin did that on purpose. He wanted Uma's character to be known only as The Bride. So whenever anybody refers to her by her actual name it's bleeped out.

wait, so it does that in theaters too? or does she actually get a name?

Posted by kakarot12300 on 10-13-2003 06:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ramp
leave it to a release that spawned from p2p networks to spark all kinds of ridiculous n00b comments, fucking b&W because it's a workprint, not because it's too gory, beeping because of reel changes, not because of uma's name, JC.......

video: 6 - workprint, shit is always compromised
audio: 7 - good for a WP
movie: 9 - but go see the fucker in the theater!!!!

haha. it beeps exactly when her name is said and only when her name is said. not 20 seconds apart in the same scene yet so far for me, not anywhere else but when her name is said. reel change? should someone with 7 posts really be calling people noobs?

the black and white, from what i gather, is *artistic*. director trying to show off. so far im utterly unimpressed by the directing. but the screenplay.. iunno.. i might just be biased by Uma (drool) but i dont think its bad at all.

Posted by guitarjedi on 10-13-2003 07:08 AM:

Bleeps

Yes, the bride has a name. In Vol. 1, it is bleeped whenever it is mentioned. This is doen intentionally - it is even described in the movie script (which has been online for over a year). We will learn what 'The Bride's real name is in Vol. 2.

Also, the black and white scenes are the same in the theater.

Posted by xer0mark on 10-13-2003 09:20 AM:

A few things on my mind

First, I heard that the black and white was to keep the R Rating. Quentin said in an interview with the Chicago Tribune, that if America could handle the violence he'd show it but they can't. I also read that in Europe, they get the same version but its in full color. In Japan, they get a completely different scene with even more blood and gore.

Second, apparently if you hear the bride's name, it ruins volume 2. Kill Bill wasn't supposed to be 2 movies it just got too long so it had to be split. The decision was made after the film was shot.

Thirdly, I saw the film twice in theaters already and after seeing the VCD, i can say that the audio track on the VCD is NOT the final mix from the film. You can hear like a shotgun sound when gogo opens the blade on her ball and chain. Some of the SFX are pretty bad. Also alot of the foley work is missing and the music and the overal mix is very poor.

Video - The framerate does stutter. Probably a crappy pulldown when encoding or something. Its pretty obvious in pans. Also the picture is a bit dark. In some shots Sofi's black outfit completely blends into the black backround.

Audio - Aside from the unfinished mix, it has that really tinny digital sound you get from poor sampling rate conversions and encoding.

In my opinion, its not a bad VCD, but its not a good VCD. I would've liked to see this WP as an SVCD with a little better job on the encoding side. cuz it did come from a DVD source.

Posted by horizonstar on 10-13-2003 10:02 AM:

Yay, finally watched it. Video is standard VCD icky-ness. Audio's okay. Great movie, though ... despite my usual distaste for T-a-r-a-n-t-i-n-o.

6.5/7/8 (absolute scale)

As has already been mentioned (but apparently ignored), the black & white bits were put there intentionally so that the movie could sneak under the NC-17 rating and only get an R.

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Posted by .Th3 on 10-13-2003 09:53 PM:

6/7/8

Nice WP, props to OPiUM..Funny story about black alien blood.

Posted by delifresh on 10-14-2003 03:17 AM:

Re: Sound

quote:
Originally posted by Klonin
[B]Sound was left side only. And what the hell is up with the cartoon parts. Is this part of Tarantino's plan? Ending was a nice lead out for Vol 2. For the idiots who think that it is retarded maybe need to look up what volumes are.

the anime part was implemented to avoid the nc-17 rating. (having a 11 yr old killing someone)

Posted by mod[e] on 10-14-2003 05:57 AM:

7/8/10

the workprint copy wasnt as bad as i thought it would...it was really good and the cut points really didnt bother me at all cos i was into the movie more!.......

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Posted by Clockwork on 10-14-2003 05:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by xer0mark
[B]A few things on my mind

Second, apparently if you hear the bride's name, it ruins volume 2. Kill Bill wasn't supposed to be 2 movies it just got too long so it had to be split. The decision was made after the film was shot.

The beeping of the Brides name was always intended and was in the script that became available on the net over a year ago.

Sound is good but not perfect. It's much better than the tcr release. I also can't complain about the video. This release will do me just fine until I go and buy the DVD. I hope the asian release leaks pronto. I really want to see the differences and I doubt it'll be out on DVD in the West. BTW, the European version is all black and white in the restaurant fight sequence like in the US.

Loved the movie, loved the style, cinematography, fight choreography, blood, gore, and the bitches getting it on.

it's sound/video/movie right?

I'd go with

7/7/9

Posted by Boralyl on 10-14-2003 10:33 PM:

Not bad quality at all. From sample the audio seems pretty good, and video appears to be in good shap too.
Video:7.5
Audio:7

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Posted by guile69 on 10-15-2003 02:43 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mista SYN
Ramp, you are fucking wrong this tyme man. The reason it beeps on the workprint.....is because it beeps in the actual flick at the movies. The reason it turns B&W is because it turns B&W at the movies. What ya'll see on the workprint, is actually whats in the theatre release. The only bullshyt that only on the workprint, is the countdown between scenes.

Wow!! Insightful second post. I think Ramp was being sarcastic.
But then again if you had more then two post's under your
belt (or you had some common sense) you would have
realized that.

The release is pretty damn close to flawless. I didn't mind
the reel changes. The encoding could have been a bit better but
who cares! This was released the day before it hit theaters.
I had it Thursday and as tempted as I was to look at it, I wouldn't.
I had to see this in theaters and I will be going back again.

That's the thing I hate about Tarantino. He makes films that keep
you coming back over and over to see them. GREAT MOVIE!!

Btw- I did actually meet Tarantino a few years back in NYC. He
was a very cool guy.
g

Posted by nitemare on 10-18-2003 01:25 AM:

7/7/3

video- clear..not full of colors, but can see all
audio- out of sync. i thought my dvd player was skipping half the time. i should have scored this a 5 cuze it was so annoying thruout the flick..so bad maybe a nuke could have been given.

movie- a big letdown!! i myself do not like swordfighting and kung-fu style flicks. i go for flicks with a good storyline, funny, and believable scenes. once i saw uma flying up onto walls (like crouching tiger and once upon a time in mexico) i lost interest. all this flick is a hack and slash movie..very few lines..and what happened to bill? she only killed like 3 out of the 5 on the list...another letdown..skip this one and see school or rock instead!!

Posted by ShorN on 10-18-2003 03:25 AM:

Well thought it was about time I added my reviews

Video is not bad for a workprint the colours are slightly washed out but overall clarity is not bad, its right what people say about the framerate, its not good. Jerkyness all over the shop and also adds to a slight sync'ing problem with the audio.

The audio I was pretty impressed with, nice clear sound. as mentioned before it does have the everso faint digital hiss to it, but its no biggie!

As for the movie.....it rocked!, ive just got back from seeing it at the cinema and now im gonna put this release on to watch! Great fight scenes, excellent score, top performance from uma, overall a kick ass movie weve come to expect from Tarantino!

7/8/9.5 (cos i gotta wait till feb to see the next part, otherwise 10)

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Posted by sephorous on 10-18-2003 08:34 AM:

i agree with xero. Alot of subtle things are missing from this release. I saw it in the theaters first. when she sees that young boy in the restaurant and tells him to go to his momma, shes supposed to sigh outloud. thats just one of the examples. But thats not it. Maybe i should document all the differences.

I guess they wont make a very big deal if you just wanna see the movie, but nevertheless, it'll be slightly different from the theatrical released one.

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Posted by beat_surrender on 10-19-2003 02:19 PM:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nitemare
[B]7/7/3

audio- out of sync.
??????

Mines fine, your dvd player must suck.

I know its late to post marks but I've only just had time to sit and watch it.

VIDEO - 7 - ok
AUDIO - Hollow (to be expected) 6
FILM 6 - Very dissapointed, whats with all this 'One of the greatest movies ever' Did I miss something?

Posted by Heartagram on 10-19-2003 04:32 PM:

Killer

Good Movie, Good PRE... Thanks

Posted by Monster Of Art on 10-19-2003 10:59 PM:

Good movie.
not sure if this is where is where i should post this but i will do it anyway.
It might just be my copy but what happend to the fight scene where Uma is fighting some old guy and he jumps over her then jumps onto her sword and balances on the sword then does a back flip, like in the trailer. Was this cut out the film or is it just my copy.
Anyway i liked the film

Posted by XeroFightsAlone on 10-20-2003 02:59 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Monster Of Art
Good movie.
not sure if this is where is where i should post this but i will do it anyway.
It might just be my copy but what happend to the fight scene where Uma is fighting some old guy and he jumps over her then jumps onto her sword and balances on the sword then does a back flip, like in the trailer. Was this cut out the film or is it just my copy.
Anyway i liked the film

thats in the next movie.

Posted by labrat1 on 10-20-2003 11:50 PM:

saw it all
all i have to say is

movie is playing along all of a sudden

.......beep.....flash(white diamond)......9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,...beep..

movie keeps playing

thoes are reel changes

makes my rateing go to a 6/8/10

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Posted by propr`one on 10-23-2003 05:31 PM:

my god

since when do you people WHINE so much. first off, just from your comments i can tell most of you have no idea how any of this works.
but more importantly, just relax, watch the movie.
it was released by opium, which, as mentioned before is a bullshyte group nudder group.
PLUS its a workprint, so it not a dvd rip.
i will explain again
workprint =/ dvd rip
also, its a vcd. if you want quality, go dvdr. or at least svcd
you all knew what you were downloading when you got this.
so far so good, 7/7/not done.
this release is completly watchable, and i'll enjoy watching it again once i got a dvd rip, and comparing the two.
just download it, cds cost 30 cents each, and your bandwidth aint gonna get used by your mother checking her emails
peace

Posted by yorkshire on 11-03-2003 12:11 PM:

7/7/8, certainly watchable

Posted by propr`one on 11-07-2003 01:55 AM:

most watchable, you can grasp the film from this rls.

framerate is filled, aka empty frames
for those who dont understand, its like taking a 10 fps source and converting it to 29.97.

but it is quite good, countdowns dont disrupt watchablility
vid 7
aud 7
movie 9

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