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Posted by elpale1 on 07-30-2003 02:03 AM:

Looks great... better than ctp... but since i already got the ctp... im not grabbin this one

Posted by munken on 07-30-2003 02:46 AM:

this NTCS or PAL? have the CTP,but when playing back the CTP version I have a lot of motion blur, which I think is due to that it is NTSC and not PAL..

Posted by Athena on 07-30-2003 03:01 AM:

nice release, loGisTic!

same as the ones before me, i allready got the ctp version but if i didnt allready had downloaded the ctp version i would get this one.

8/7/x

Posted by SaLe_X on 07-30-2003 03:45 AM:

OMG, other groups seem to be gaining on CTP. BEWARE!

Posted by th3whiterabbi7 on 07-30-2003 05:20 AM:

motion blur doesn't have anything to do with NTSC/PAL it is usually caused by encoding with a CBR (constant bit rate) so scenes that require alot of bits for the scene will not get the necessary amount and become "blurry".

Posted by jeex on 07-30-2003 05:27 AM:

its pal..

the last 2 CTP release have been NTSC which is kinda weird since i think all the other releases (telesync) that i've gotten have been pal..

Posted by nogana naishi on 07-30-2003 06:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by th3whiterabbi7
motion blur doesn't have anything to do with NTSC/PAL it is usually caused by encoding with a CBR (constant bit rate) so scenes that require alot of bits for the scene will not get the necessary amount and become "blurry".

Uh, no. The motion blur most definitely *is* as a result of CTP capturing in NTSC (30fps) instead of PAL (25fps).

Films run at 24fps, so when you capture them in PAL format, you only get one extra, blurred frame per second. With NTSC, you get six per second. Much more noticable.

Posted by nogana naishi on 07-30-2003 06:30 AM:

Video quality is okay. Below-average for CTP.

Sound is good, but seems slightly out of sync.

7/7/?

It's nice to see them doing NTSC releases... it saves me the trouble of having to re-encode them.

Posted by GeeMann on 07-30-2003 07:31 AM:

Release is ok I rate it 6.5/6.5/8

Posted by aTTicA on 07-30-2003 11:43 AM:

i wuz thinkin maybeit was aslow capture or framerate...maybe even dropped frames

Posted by Vcdman45 on 07-30-2003 09:07 PM:

Very nice release!! But as many other i already have the CTP version and ill just stick with it..good rls tho

8/8/8

Posted by me_know4 on 07-30-2003 11:14 PM:

Mistmatched Frame Rate Causes Flicker

Mistmatched Frame Rate Causes Flicker! A movie in a projecter in a theater, film crosses the apature at 24 frames per second. There is a spinning device called a shutter. It is shaped like a bow tie. This meaning the area of the shutter spinning cuts of light and the open area lets light through. Have you ever been in a theater and the film seemed to flicker? If so the setting of the shutter and what is called an intermittent sprocket the acutual pulls down the sprocketed film. This sprocket gear that pulls down the frame while the bow shaped shutter is blocking the light. If the movement of the frame and the shutter are out of sync then there is a flicker. This goes for video tape of a 24 frames per second movie. 30 fps causes flicker not blurring. 25 fps causes a very minor flicker but it's stil there if you look.
The new cameras 24P and 24P Advanced have no flicker unless the projector shutter is off. The idea that a frame rate cause a blurr is not correct. Motion blurr is caused by encoding with not optimized settings. CBR SVCD's are nuked. They must be compliant. VBR not to exceed 2500 bits per second, average bit rate is the trade off for size on each CD with a minimun pretty standard at 350 bps. Less motion blur is treated by doing mulitple passes with the encoder like Cinema Craft Encoder. Which compares the infor mation of previous frames, the frame being done and the frame that follows. Across mutiple passes.

Posted by Jdigital03 on 07-31-2003 12:36 AM:

good release indeed 8/8/8 but like most others i already have the ctp rls so i wont be gettin it but to those who dont have a rls yet now you have choice ntsc or pal to each their own & timmay!

Posted by side on 07-31-2003 04:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nogana naishi
Uh, no. The motion blur most definitely *is* as a result of CTP capturing in NTSC (30fps) instead of PAL (25fps).

Films run at 24fps, so when you capture them in PAL format, you only get one extra, blurred frame per second. With NTSC, you get six per second. Much more noticable.

what! no you dont get blur from that, you could capture it at 400 fps for all I care, it still would'nt blur it, ever heard of a little thing called 3:2 pulldown. plus this is a TS, so it's not frame for frame anayway

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Posted by X400 on 07-31-2003 12:46 PM:

u guys rating by the jpg again.... ;(

7/6/?

Posted by Jesus H Christ on 07-31-2003 02:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nogana naishi
Video quality is okay. Below-average for CTP.

Sound is good, but seems slightly out of sync.

7/7/?

It's nice to see them doing NTSC releases... it saves me the trouble of having to re-encode them.

Hmm...what are you rating here, the ctp version or loGisTic?

Posted by uRMoM.=P on 07-31-2003 10:56 PM:

lol

why? oh why? would you release anything after ctp?

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Posted by Bazacko on 08-01-2003 12:04 AM:

Re: lol

quote:
Originally posted by uRMoM.=P
why? oh why? would you release anything after ctp?

Because you could probably do a better job.

Posted by [LdFg] on 08-02-2003 09:42 AM:

Re: lol

quote:
Originally posted by uRMoM.=P
why? oh why? would you release anything after ctp?

why? oh why? would anyone post such a stupid comment?

Read the label. its an internal! And if they took the time to film it themselves and work on it why NOT release it?

Posted by uRMoM.=P on 08-11-2003 08:03 PM:

Lame

Your reply is really lame! if what you are saying would make any sence (which it doesnt) the scene would be flooded with lame internals!
If you a group gets beat on a release, then they get beat, there is no need for internal; as far as all the "work" they put in on the release, well.. who cares really!
They can take that as a learning experience to hurry up on future releases.

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