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Posted by TheNine on 03-03-2005 08:23 AM:

just got the sample for this, looks ok, sound is good, i can see why ppl think its a telecine rip or something, there does seem to be some flicker

6.5- bit grainy
9- nice and clear
8- movie was nice for a trilogy (saw it in the cinema)

Posted by Hairyhamster on 03-03-2005 09:41 AM:

er...well..........

maybe im wrong but this looks like a tc to me..... if it isnt then its a bad dvdrip....no b/w scrollers etc.

8/8

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Posted by Neversoft on 03-03-2005 09:49 AM:

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 03-03-2005 10:57 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hairyhamster
er...well..........

maybe im wrong but this looks like a tc to me..... if it isnt then its a bad dvdrip....no b/w scrollers etc.

Had a feeling this topic would come up "TC" , as some kiddie today decided with no thinking whats so ever , nuke this for mislabled TC. These same nukers unnuked ORACLE's for "has good ar" when clearly on this link it isnt: http://svcdshots.netfirms.com/ . People have no brains nowadays and nuke not for what the actual movie quality is but more or less politics.

TEG has pred 30 scr's (est) in last few months , non of which have been nuked for "mislabled tc"

If you actually payed any attention during these movies you would notice a resemblence between TEG's DVDScr's and Centropy FS DVDRips. Gee do they both got hidden marks in them

. TEG obviously has a faster source, which means they dont have menu's . Im sure you can figure it out. The wonderful rules which noone cares about anymore states "all retail must have menu"

I have burned mutiple DVDScr from TEG in the past as they are retail picture , just not mastered with menu. Techically TEG could release all their SVCD/XviD as DVDRips and DVDR as DVDScr but they dont.

Now they just released phantom of the opera dvdscr 5 weeks after it went wide , but blade / trinity is 7 weeks , so it must be a telecine.

Anyway im not flamming anyone here but everyone needs to wake up and not worry about all the politics and newbies in the scene.

Hopefully this ended people thinking TEG's DVDScr are TC's.

As for this DVDscr , usual TEG , no marks , not their best but definatly DVD Source. DVDR was PAL but doesnt matter to me , new dvd players play both PAL/NTSC

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Gj TEG , keep em comming !

8/9/meh

Posted by Hairyhamster on 03-03-2005 11:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
Had a feeling this topic would come up "TC" , as some kiddie today decided with no thinking whats so ever , nuke this for mislabled TC. These same nukers unnuked ORACLE's for "has good ar" when clearly on this link it isnt: http://svcdshots.netfirms.com/ . People have no brains nowadays and nuke not for what the actual movie quality is but more or less politics.

TEG has pred 30 scr's (est) in last few months , non of which have been nuked for "mislabled tc"

If you actually payed any attention during these movies you would notice a resemblence between TEG's DVDScr's and Centropy FS DVDRips. Gee do they both got hidden marks in them . TEG obviously has a faster source, which means they dont have menu's . Im sure you can figure it out. The wonderful rules which noone cares about anymore states "all retail must have menu"

Now they just released phantom of the opera dvdscr 5 weeks after it went wide , but blade / trinity is 7 weeks , so it must be a telecine.

Anyway im not flamming anyone here but everyone needs to wake up and not worry about all the politics and newbies in the scene.

Hopefully this ended people thinking TEG's DVDScr are TC's.

As for this DVDscr , usual TEG , no marks , not their best but definatly DVD Source. DVDR was PAL but doesnt matter to me , new dvd players play both PAL/NTSC .

Gj TEG , keep em comming !

8/9/meh

no ones flaming.... but ive burnt this and played it, and if it is a dvd then its not a good rip... i defy anyone to say this looks as good as a retail dvd, cos it just doesnt
I have burned mutiple DVDScr from TEG in the past as they are retail picture , just not mastered with menu. Techically TEG could release all their SVCD/XviD as DVDRips and DVDR as DVDScr but they dont.

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Posted by a r e s ! on 03-03-2005 11:45 AM:

check this out

TeleCine
Blade.Trinity.TELECINE.XviD-BMF
Blade.III.Trinity.SVCD.TELECINE-VideoCD
Blade.III.Trinity.DVDR.TELECiNE-NOX
Blade.Trinity.TELECINE.NTSC.DVDR-BMF

"DVDScreener"
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVDSCR.XviD-MoF
Blade.Trinity.DVDSCR.XViD.PROPER-DVL
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD-TEG-VCD
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVDSCR.DVDR.READ.NFO-TEG-DVD

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/6922/blade3tcvsdvdscr26iw.jpg

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/9334/blade3tcvsdvdscr4fh.jpg

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
Had a feeling this topic would come up "TC" , as some kiddie today decided with no thinking whats so ever , nuke this for mislabled TC. People have no brains nowadays and nuke not for what the actual movie quality is but more or less politics.

Absolutely right!

As you can see on the two screenshots, the quality of the wrong labeled "DVDSCR" is by far better. Nuke the "DVDSCR" for the mentioned reason, it won't change the fact that the "DVDSCR" is first choice... stupid rules

Posted by chiv on 03-03-2005 12:05 PM:

i cant quite see how you can claim that the 'dvdscr' is far better... if this is a dvdscr, there is NO reason for people to chose this over the tc, because while im not saying for sure if the 'dvdscr' IS a tc or not (which is what the debate seems to be about...) one thing i CAN see, is that the tc looks equally as good as the dvdscr.

Posted by Hairyhamster on 03-03-2005 12:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by chiv
i cant quite see how you can claim that the 'dvdscr' is far better... if this is a dvdscr, there is NO reason for people to chose this over the tc, because while im not saying for sure if the 'dvdscr' IS a tc or not (which is what the debate seems to be about...) one thing i CAN see, is that the tc looks equally as good as the dvdscr.

my point exactly........ which it shouldnt!!!!!!!!!!

he he he .... i love this scene!!

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Posted by IRC_Moviefan on 03-03-2005 12:53 PM:

On the first of the two jpegs it clearly shows how dark the actual TELECiNE is vs the DVDScreener. 2nd set of jpegs show how washed the colors are on the TELECiNE vs the DVDScreener.

Imo , Gj TEG , keep em comming

Posted by le_rippeur on 03-03-2005 01:14 PM:

although it'd a tc, it's ok for me

Posted by Roger on 03-03-2005 01:55 PM:

i am sorry, but this dvdscr as BLUE in it ...

VideoCD has the right colors for it ...

Posted by chiv on 03-03-2005 02:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by IRC_Moviefan
On the first of the two jpegs it clearly shows how dark the actual TELECiNE is vs the DVDScreener. 2nd set of jpegs show how washed the colors are on the TELECiNE vs the DVDScreener.

Imo , Gj TEG , keep em comming

this could easily be down to the level of fiddling the groups did or didn't do - im not saying they are the same source, but the quality in the dvdscr should look bettter, and it doesn't - the colours are different (a blue tint) in the 'dvdscr' but this doesn't really mean anything, because going back to the DEFINATE sky captain dvdscr, it had the same blue tint - you should just be looking at quality, and as far as quality goes, they look virtually identical.

Posted by a r e s ! on 03-03-2005 02:39 PM:

Damn it. Guys have you seen both releases or not?

The quality of the mislabeled "DVDSCR" (TC) is by far better compared to the old TeleCine. The new release has better colors, a much better contrast and a correct aspect ratio. The old TC has a bad AR, washed out colors and a very bad contrast (too dark) and best for last, it's not a reencode (hardcoded subtitles like in the first scene with the pyramid are in English and not in French).

I won't make any more screenshots for this, believe it or not.

Posted by Redemption198 on 03-03-2005 02:44 PM:

I really doubt this is a DVD-Screener, the more i see of it, the less im convinced, just because it better than the last TC doesn't mean anything, the last one was very poor, and looked more TS to me anyway.

This has nothing to do with Scene Politics, as i dont believe in most of them, its about quality, and this isnt the greates quality, and one of the worse DVD-Screeners, if it is, that i have seen.

6/9/6

Posted by commiewhore on 03-03-2005 06:48 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by a r e s !

Had a feeling this topic would come up "TC" , as some kiddie today decided with no thinking whats so ever , nuke this for mislabled TC. These same nukers unnuked ORACLE's for "has good ar" when clearly on this link it isnt: http://svcdshots.netfirms.com/ . People have no brains nowadays and nuke not for what the actual movie quality is but more or less politics.

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check this out

TeleCine
Blade.Trinity.TELECINE.XviD-BMF
Blade.III.Trinity.SVCD.TELECINE-VideoCD
Blade.III.Trinity.DVDR.TELECiNE-NOX
Blade.Trinity.TELECINE.NTSC.DVDR-BMF

"DVDScreener"
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVDSCR.XviD-MoF
Blade.Trinity.DVDSCR.XViD.PROPER-DVL
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVD.SCREENER.SVCD-TEG-VCD
Blade.Trinity.WS.DVDSCR.DVDR.READ.NFO-TEG-DVD

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/6922/blade3tcvsdvdscr26iw.jpg

http://img229.exs.cx/img229/9334/blade3tcvsdvdscr4fh.jpg
Absolutely right!

As you can see on the two screenshots, the quality of the wrong labeled "DVDSCR" is by far better. Nuke the "DVDSCR" for the mentioned reason, it won't change the fact that the "DVDSCR" is first choice... stupid rules

had to do two quotes here.

for the first guy...you are the idiot, im tired of people making completely wrong comparisons. i dont care for oracle right now other than they know how to sync, but if you compare that and cobra rls, the silver video is exactly the same. however oracle did correct the AR for tv viewing, your pictures you show, first, are squished a tad but not too much, second the original video is cropped like that, they just fixed it so it can be viewed right on tv, thus the tiny blackbars.....

also...whats a politic?

next for this rls
i dont care if God themselves rlsed this dvdscr, it does look like pooh, as you can tell from the second quote. the AR for both this and the TC are the same...which neither matches the retail dvd. so that right off the bat screams...same src, however they did clean it up nice, and tiny black spots on screen are hard to see, its brighter , which is a good thing.

video = 7 ...other than brightness, video has same slowdown as TC in certain parts.

audio = 9 ...its dts of some sort.

movie = 7 ...even though this commercializes a life we have all dreamed about living...its still comic bookie and nice bantor

enjoy.,

Posted by Arthur Daily on 03-04-2005 04:40 AM:

just thinking here, if they tryed to fiddle a TC and pass it off as a DVDscr.
Why not use the DD5.1 from the Blade.III.Trinity.DVDR.TELECiNE-NOX?

That said, the qualerty is not as good as a normal DVDscr but the best print of this movie so far, so its ok by me

TEG-VCD knew about the qualerty and that it would get this talk.
just read the quote from there nfo.

eather way, im gratefull

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Posted by TheNine on 03-04-2005 07:24 AM:

i am really kinda confused on the source of this rip

i took some screen shots

http://www.myfilebin.com/userfiles/TheNine/blade-cigburn1.JPG

&

http://www.myfilebin.com/userfiles/TheNine/blade-cigburn2.jpg

those are definetly cig burns, i think some1 shud own up and say its a tc really

Posted by crapper on 03-04-2005 03:26 PM:

its an internal company copy.. spread for internal use.. there for a telecine.. but since the final mastering gets done by the same machine u could can it a screener..

actually most movies are telecine's unless the original master was recorded digital.. and well then they use that..

but this is a great screener tc pressed on dvd..

so quite bitchin and rate it..

i say 8 for picture.. yes the final version will probable be better
for sound 8 .. yes the final version will probable be better like dts and 5.1..
and yes the movie SUCKS! 2 crap the first 20 minutes (maybe even 10 are nice and the last 20 maybe 10) so 40 minutes is nice.. the rest is below any standard.. in other words a CRAPPY movie

still my thnxx go's ou to teg.. u did once again an amazing job.. by handing us this quality at this time.. thnxx and keep em coming.. as for what they are labled.. who cares.. there great..
love em... the quality is far above any version that would be available in the next few weeks..

thnxx THUMBS UP!!

Posted by chiv on 03-04-2005 04:26 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by crapper
.. yes the final version will probable be better

makes me wonder if you saw it at all, it'll DEFINATELY be better, cuz this was a crummy copy, because every other worthwhile dvdscr thats ever been released, looks better than this.

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edit:crapper sent me a delightfly pm about how much of an expert he is, and how perfect this copy truely is, and he warned me that i should rate with numbers, and not comments like 'crap' and 'ugly' and 'no better than the current tc thats out', so heres the numbers for any of you that simply NEED to have them!

3/7/5 not a very nice release by any dvdscr standards.

Posted by HaLiKuS on 03-07-2005 07:19 PM:

Dunno if its a TC, but it aint a DVDrip.

As a TC 9/7/5 (not as dark as ther other P.O.S. TC, but worse sound)

As a DVDscr 2/5/5

Still the best copy IMO of a crappy movie ive prolly invested waaaay too much time in.

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