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This is a bad re-encode of Push.2009.HDRip.XviD-ArDVD.


This release is highly over cropped.
Proof: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/5095 (Mouse over the screenshot to compare)


Also, mislabeled. 100% Not a DVDSCR.

Stick with the original release if you want quality.

v=7 (original = 9)
a=9
m= n/a

uhm

not sure is a dvdscr, is for sure same quality. nuked for reencoded from p2p Push.2009.HDRip.XviD-ArDVD and overcrop but as for as i know ArDVD release is "corrupted", playable only and with some players only, there is no way to reencode it because not indexed and to proof overcrop nuker must have source with "more image" (overcrop is ONLY calculated by analyzing the original and not assuming that a future release could have more image)

I have no problems to watch this release, i have seriously problem to watch ArDVD wrongly encoded.

video = 8
audio = 9

Re: uhm

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Originally posted by split710
to proof overcrop nuker must have source with "more image" (overcrop is ONLY calculated by analyzing the original and not assuming that a future release could have more image)

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no

biohazard

I have ArDVD and i have the iLG

NOT considering black un crop

image is the same, "no one line lost"

I'm very sorry but you are doing confusion with some one other release:

http://i40.tinypic.com/30ixr0y.jpg

Re: no

quote:

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Originally posted by split710
biohazard

I have ArDVD and i have the iLG

NOT considering black un crop

image is the same, "no one line lost"

watch better the iLG release

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no

yes is true, overcropped at bottom..... but is not the iLG release, you are doing confusion Biohazard, with some other release, you don't have the iLG:

http://i40.tinypic.com/30ixr0y.jpg (this is the iLG same frame)

i can now understund also you 7 for video....... you compared with some other release.

Ah yes my mistake.


iLG though is still a lower bitrate making ArDVD the best.

LTRG = Cropped in order to hide subtitles.

no

second mistake biohazard

Bitrate:
ArDVD = 1550
iLG = 1630

you don't like iLG I suppose

Re: no

quote:

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Originally posted by split710
second mistake biohazard

Bitrate:
ArDVD = 1550
iLG = 1630

you don't like iLG I suppose

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Re: uhm

quote:

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Originally posted by split710
not sure is a dvdscr, is for sure same quality. nuked for reencoded from p2p Push.2009.HDRip.XviD-ArDVD and overcrop but as for as i know ArDVD release is "corrupted", playable only and with some players only, there is no way to reencode it because not indexed and to proof overcrop nuker must have source with "more image" (overcrop is ONLY calculated by analyzing the original and not assuming that a future release could have more image)

I have no problems to watch this release, i have seriously problem to watch ArDVD wrongly encoded.

video = 8
audio = 9

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wrong again

biohazard

as you can see you hav wrong info. Yes I done also mistake, bitrate od ArDVD is less of what i wrote.

considering that ArDVD is 640x480 UNCROPPED with audio 192
considering that iLG is 624x352 CROPPED with audio 128

is matematically impossible that ArDVD has more bitrate video of iLG.

JPG with proof:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2i8aarl.jpg

Thanks for all the tech info, but seriously does anyone elese care?

All i come here for is the check the quality before i download...

Can either of you answer this ...


a) Screener message?
b) b & w bits?

I care. I downloaded both versions and while iLG's does have a higher bitrate, I tend to agree that it is probably a re-encode of ArDVD's release.

Bottom line though, iLG's version is still much better simply because it was encoded by someone who knew what they were doing. It's properly cropped and it's not truncated. With ArDVD's version, even ffdshow barely wants to decode it, let alone any more unforgiving players.

To answer your questions, there are no messages or B&W parts, most likely because it's not really a dvdscr to begin with. It seems more like a quick & dirty R3. There are, however, Korean hard-subs throughout the entire movie, and there's a fair amount of Cantonese dialogue that is spoken without any English subs.

The movie itself was good, except for the ending which seemed rather rushed and unfinished. I regret listening to the idiot critics who said it was just another Jumper and I should've gone to see it in the theater.

Rated as somewhere between a dvdscr and a R5... 6/8/7.5

First release I saw come out was the ArDVD that had major playback issues, second was a 700mb rip that had hardcoded subs blurred with no group name, third was the cropped iLG release which they first labeled as HDRip and was only 700mb, and now this iLG rip which is "DVDScr". It is beyond me how iLG isn't getting nuked for this, but whatever.

the copy that I actually sat down and watched was the cropped iLG, the crop looks fine and is MUCH less of a distraction than the hardcoded korean subs. Unless of course you're a deaf korean, then I assume it would come in handy.

v: 7 good colors, somewhat pixelated, definately not as sharp as a DVDScr src should be.

a: 7 - no problems with it, crystal clear.

m: 8 - thought it was much better than Jumper or any other "super power" movie.

quote:

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Originally posted by Vorph
I care. I downloaded both versions and while iLG's does have a higher bitrate, I tend to agree that it is probably a re-encode of ArDVD's release.

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quote:

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Originally posted by A7mag3ddon
Thanks for all the tech info, but seriously does anyone elese care?

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you's all need to get out more

Converted this to dvd and apart from the Cantonese dialogue that is spoken without any English subs, this is pretty decent.

V 8
A 8
M 8 Entertained through out. Fanning didn't annoy me for once, kids got potential.