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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


the AntiGeek

combining video and audio from 2 diff sources

sick of me yet?

next project---
fat albert

i have both releases and would like to use the audio from pot over matines video.....

i know tmpg has an audio gap correct feature but i cant get any volume on the preview...just the audio display which is a pain in the ass to work with....any better ideas?

im using ver. 2.521.58.169

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Dec 2004


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mpeg-vcr?

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May 2003

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why not just wait for a better release! saves u more time....LOL

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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


the AntiGeek

hi guys thanx

mnfesq
i looked i didnt see anything for it except a demux remux ....and i would definitley need a gap correction tool no matter what i did...is there something i didnt see?

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LoNeR
Mar 2004


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I'm certainly having images in my head of some severe audio desynch problems.

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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


the AntiGeek

quote:
Originally posted by LoNeR
I'm certainly having images in my head of some severe audio desynch problems.


whos a lucky bastard?

seems pot and matine used the same silver so all i had to do was merge the two files together from each..(matine has an 8.00 sec overlap that needs trimming....i hate that shit)...and tmpgenc did the rest without any audio gap correction needed...definitely worth the time it took for anyone looking to do so too

i am still open to suggestions for future projects cause this wouldnt have been too easy to do otherwise

looter

in addition...if anyone knows an easier way to trim an overlap and merge let me know...it took a bunch of tries to find out the exact time it overlaps

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Dec 2004

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1. Demux both videos to elementary streams, discarding the unwanted ones. If in .AVI format, you can use VirtualDub to save the WAV.

2. Convert the audio stream to .WAV, if not already. I like to use WinAmp's Disk Writer Output for MPEG audio so I can apply a quick&dirty equaliser.

3. Use TMPGEncXpress 3.0 to set the audio delay to be correct for the START of the movie. On the Cut-Edit screen, use both the video window and amplitude graph together to get it right.

4. On the Set Output screen, select Wave Output, and encode the .WAV file.

5. Load the video and the new .WAV file into TMPGExpress and figure out how far out of sync the audio is at the END of the movie (assuming you got the audio delay correct in steps 3 & 4). For example, a gun fires on screen at 01:30:15,500 but the shot sound occurs at 01:30:16,750 means a 1250ms positive desync.

6. You'll need CoolEdit Pro, WaveLab, SoundForge or any other top-flight audio authoring program with a decent TIME STRETCH function. I recommend WaveLab, or CoolEdit with Resample Only & Gliding Stretch.

7. In whatever you're using (they all have their own quirks), you should see the source time and a dialogue for the required time. The required time should be the source time minus whatever the desync time was from step 5. Remember, minusing a negative produces a positive. Set it off, and frankly, hope for the best (more quirks). Save the .WAV.

8. Load up your video & the newer new .WAV file into TMPGEnc and check the sync at the end of the movie. If good, encode the file to whatever you want. If not, rant&rave, then repeat steps 5 - 7.

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sportsfan99
Aug 2004

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That sounds like too much work just to do a demux-remux thing.

Pretty much the only program I've used for this sort of thing was mpeg-vcr:

1) Join the mpegs of each source
2) Edit the beginning to the end right down to the exact frames of both sources
3) Demux each stream
4) Remux the 2 streams that you want to

If the sources are different framerates then I would use goldwave to adjust the audio.

Have done this a few times and have never had a sync issue

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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


the AntiGeek

thanx guys......looks like this weekend i have another project of this sort...since i have mpeg-vcr already i m gonna give sportsfans advice a try first...

quote:
Originally posted by sportsfan99

2) Edit the beginning to the end right down to the exact frames of both sources



my question is
how do i tell which frames are exact matches?

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Aug 2004

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You view it. Open up both sources in mpeg-vcr side-by-side, and pick a reference-point-frame to start your edit. Then an end point. For example one time as a reference point I used a movie studio's logo when it began (mark-in). An end point was when a particular name came up on the end credits(mark-out). Do it for both sources obviously. You can use the left\right arrows on the keyboard to go frame by frame. For this to work though, there can't be an overlap after combining the mpegs. So if there's an overlap you have to do additional editing in order to make the transition from cd 1 to cd 2 seamless.

Also when saving, always save as vcd or svcd, not just the program stream. Cuz I've noticed demuxing streams saving the other way dont work the way it should.

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ZootedLooter
Feb 2003


the AntiGeek

thanx SF...i still dont have both files but im working on em....

hypothetically.......are mpeg-1 audio and mpeg-2 audios compatible without reencoding?

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Aug 2004

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I'm not sure I follow you. You talkin about audio that's muxed with mpeg 2 video. Or mpeg1 layer2 as opposed to mpeg1 layer1 audio?

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quote:
Originally posted by zootedlooter
thanx SF...i still dont have both files but im working on em....

hypothetically.......are mpeg-1 audio and mpeg-2 audios compatible without reencoding?

looter

If you mean the MPEG audio from a VCD or SVCD file, then they are the same, and could be used with either format without re-encoding, but they won't be DVD compliant. DVD audio has to be 48khz, and would need to be resampled/re-encoded.

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