Covers are included, ooooooooooooooooooh!

And all the extras are there, aaaaaaaah!

Original version, extended version and all extras and a healthy bitrate, my ass or well done!

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judging from sample looks nice. but it looks like dvdshrink work but im not a genious at this. probably cause of monitor. wait till i watch on tv. so far



good movie though

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Volume Name MEET_THE_FOCKERS
Application id
Implementation id mkisofs
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 3/27/2005 12:12:47

Not a one-click from the ID, nor the bitrate at 9352k. Usually get those off beat numbers from re-authorist to do-cce4u. So looks legit to me.

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JoshNya

which program do you use to get those results (especially to show which program was used to encode)

video was a bit grainy imo
audio was good

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DvdInfoPro V3.52

Great Program

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is there really 2 versions of a 115 min movie with bitrate of 9352k on 1 dvd5?
others (ray, rotk) were separate disks for the EE.

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Well, another movie I'm just going to rent and rip myself. Definitely a CCE job, but suffers too much from a skimpy bitrate. I watched it tonight and I was disappointed with the copy. Lots of artifacting (pretty much around every object in the film). Granted it's a comedy and you don't need much, this however, was too little IMO.

For those that enjoy extras, well, it's complete. So can't complain there.

7/10 Video - An average of 3200kbit/sec on a full 1.85:1 looked pretty bad. The 7/10 is actually generous. Granted, the retail could be flawed to hell for all I know. But this sure don't look too good. It's a 115 min movie, it does need a touch more of the disc than they provided IMO.

5/10 DVD-R - I personally don't like when video is sacraficed to this degree just for some extras that are hardly watched by people. But that's me versus the rest who like extras, so I'll leave it at that. IMO, if you watch the extras, you like the movie. If you like the movie, buy it.

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Good work BHP on keeping both versions for all saying dvdshrink when has BHP ever used that crap go ask mptdvd if you want a shrink copy

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Hopefully the awful bitrate is grounds for a group like Replica to do an internal proper. Rather have untouched video than any extras at all.

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for the dumb

first the avg bitrate was bout 3900 , still sorta low.

for the people who thought it was a complete rls. if you actually download and view the dvdr. you will notice the extended film option just adds extended scenes to the already main movie. that means only one main movie set, and the extended scenes are just called upon during the film.

this is genius and dedidcation by the producers.

all deleted scenes kept...cool.

video = 8 looks as good as any rls from any grp out

audio = 8 why would dd5.1 english be rated any lower ?

movie = 6 ...its an ok film. not the best of sequels, but had some laughs.

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Originally posted by commiewhore
for the dumb

first the avg bitrate was bout 3900 , still sorta low.

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there is no 2.0 audio on dvd only 5.1

Could someone please tell me where are extended scene in extedned version in which minutes.

Because it says that extended and theatrical version is 01:55:10 long

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have you seen any extended scenes?
i saw the movie yesterday and didnt note anything new

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even if the bitrate is overkill. it still looks great on my tv. i rather keep this than what i would have done and dvdshrink it.

8/8/9

anybody see any difference with extended. i noitced the blue dog but nothing happens.

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Originally posted by porco556
Well well, look who's back...

Mathematically (something you're obviously not good at), tell me how you get 3900kbit/sec.

Let's do the math, shall we, I'll include all the steps not to confuse you.

3,525,246,976 bytes for the VOBs (including video + 5.1DD audio + 2.0 DC)

Movie is 115 mins.

3,525,246,975bytes / (115min * 60sec/min) = 510,905bytes/sec

510,905bytes / 8bit/byte = 4,087,242 bits/sec

4,087,242bits/sec / 1024bit/kbit = 3991kbit/sec

So, that is bitrate with 2 audio streams. Subtract 448kbit/sec and 192kbit/sec, for the 5.1 and the 2.0 and you've got 3351kbit/sec for video. Since the actual video would be around 2.5% smaller (pre-authored DVD size vs. finished product), you get around 3267kbit/sec on the video (with all the subtitles also included, but I am not going to calculate all that into it as it's minute)

So, tell me, where did you get 3900? And also, who's the dumb one again?

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Originally posted by commiewhore
sigh, obviously you...cause unless you are in the grp or have the retail in your hand, you dont know shit bout it, now do you ? anyhow, this forrum is for voting not for flaming...but you knew that right ?


*also where is your calculation for the extras ? and how much they are downsampled ? if you dont have the retail, your assumption on the original dvd vob bitrate could be flawed...and notice i said, about 3900 ...cause im not a cop like you..heh...give more facts bout how grps do things, please, its funny, hope you voted .

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First, you took my 3200 and said "for the dumb. first the avg bitrate was bout 3900 , still sorta low."

That obviously a) shows you threw the first flame, and b) you didn't mean "bout", however you still said it like you were correcting. Now you're back paddling.

Second, all comments were towards the release, not the retail nor the group (if Centropy released this, my opinion would be the same). The video looked shitty, I stated that. Nowhere did I compare this to the retail. And you don't have to belong to BHP to see this. However, each to is own, my *opinion* is not catered to 100% of readers. You don't like it? Don't read it.

Third, why would I need the calculations for the extras? Those are a separate VOB set from the film. The bitrate only refers to the actual movie itself. And how much the movie is downsampled is also irrelevant.

Fouth, you do not need the retail to get a bitrate of this release. The math is not flawed, but it is also still approximate. Might be off by a few kbit/sec.

Look, this ain't the first time we've clashed. I don't even care if everyone here hates me (which I am probably batting a 50/50 hate/like ratio ), but I sure as hell ain't interested in this shit you bring to the table. You want a decent convo/debate, bring some real logic/facts next time, and not call people "dumb" for knowing more than you.

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im glad you thought you were the dumb.
glad when i said, bout, and still sorta low, you took that as an insult and not fact which is what you were stating...that the rls bitrate was low. <cough>complex<cough>

*edited flame...due to forrum rules.*


what's cento py ? that a new type of plant ?

my vote still stands even though people cry interlaced.

video = 8
audio = 8 ...really how could you vote lower ? doesnt make sense, in theory dts would be perfect.

movie = 6 again not the best sequel

all extras kept is good, good to see it this early, unlike some, id buy this cause i have the first one bought..some people do that.

this one ill leave in for quoters, "vote with your mind not with your dong"

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Originally posted by commiewhore
im glad you thought you were the dumb.
glad when i said, bout, and still sorta low, you took that as an insult and not fact which is what you were stating...that the rls bitrate was low. <cough>complex<cough>

*edited flame...due to forrum rules.*


what's cento py ? that a new type of plant ?

my vote still stands even though people cry interlaced.

video = 8
audio = 8 ...really how could you vote lower ? doesnt make sense, in theory dts would be perfect.

movie = 6 again not the best sequel

all extras kept is good, good to see it this early, unlike some, id buy this cause i have the first one bought..some people do that.

this one ill leave in for quoters, "vote with your mind not with your dong"

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again, im not a cop like you, but you will see a proper from your grp MP* ....

bh* release is 3480kbps avg, tdrs2002 standards state that it has to be above 3300 bitrate main movie for rls


so i guess we are both dumb.

lets sword fight to see who is closest to being right ?

also rls is not interlaced. dont let sheep fool you.

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Originally posted by commiewhore
again, im not a cop like you, but you will see a proper from your grp MP* ....

bh* release is 3480kbps avg, tdrs2002 standards state that it has to be above 3300 bitrate main movie for rls


so i guess we are both dumb.

lets sword fight to see who is closest to being right ?

also rls is not interlaced. dont let sheep fool you.

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Hey, that was a good post (no sarcasm intended). I fortunately however am not part of MPT I do also agree with you, I also didn't notice interlacing in the movie, but then again, I did watch it in PowerDVD (which does do a "de-interlace", so I might have missed it?)...

I do still stand by my bitrate calc, as 3480 would be too much with DC and 5.1 (approx 100 megs over). But that is my own opinion. I do the same calculations on all my encodes and I get around 3-4 megs empty space on my DVDs. They used BitrateViewer (good program) and most likely ran 1 of the VOBs through it.

Anyways, thanks for the good post (which didn't attack me). Being a release "cop" ain't a bad thing IMO. Some groups have been going nuts on lying in their NFOs (ThP being the worst currently). So I can't help but post on that (even if I do get attacked).

You want cops, check this NFO:

http://www.vcdquality.com/index.php?page=nfo&id=49383

Nobody complained about that shredder of a NFO.

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