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Aug 2001


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vcdslut
Jul 2007

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FINALLY.

the PUKKA original rls was quite good for a ts but this is sharper and more watchable overall. prolly best we gonna see b4 an r5 which could be months away still

saw some ppl commenting about crop but ppl are stupid looks fine to me

V:7
A:8
M:7.5 surprisingly not completely shit

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TheGRiM
Sep 2007

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Seems to be a lower quality TC or a good TS.

v: 7/8
a:7


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Bisky
Aug 2006


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Video is really good, looks like R5 to me. I think the audio is CAM audio as its very echoy and sometimes crackles.

also I think its out of sync slightly.

V - 8
A - 6
M - ?

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Vampire
Jan 2005


He's quite mad you know.

Video is OK, not brilliant for a TC. The audio isn't good - as mentioned, it sounds quite hollow (still clear though) so I'm not sure if this is just a bad job or they're lying about the source.

Based on sample...

Video: 7
Audio: 6
Movie: ? (yet to watch)

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shadowsniper
Jul 2007

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I'd given up waiting for a better copy so ended up watching the PUKKA TS the other day & now this turns up! lol

Only had a chance for a quick skim through...

v-7.
Definitely not R5 as someone mentioned, either a good TS or slightly substandard TC. Still, nice colours, quite sharp & clear.

a-6.
A bit empty & crackly in places. On quick skim through, sync seems OK.

m-8.
Really enjoyed this flick, good work Pixar!

DVD is due out beginning of November i think, so until that or R5, this is your best bet.

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Jul 2002

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Video isn't good for a Telecine. Not clear at all, and very dark. Many of the dark scenes are blocky and unfocused. Audio is low and hollow. Many imperfections. The credits look like the "oil painting" release of the Ant Bully. (if you remember that old release)

The best out right now, but not an R5 as some are claiming, and possibly not even a TC. I've certainly seen better TS than this, so who knows.

V - 5 (as a TC)
A - 5
M - 5 It stunk like old cheese

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lorddusty
Apr 2002


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quote:
Originally posted by vcdslut

saw some ppl commenting about crop but ppl are stupid looks fine to me



The reason they're commenting on a crop is that the film is supposed to be scope with an AR of 2.35:1, and just like with their harry potter "telecine" MVS has managed to crop out almost 1/4 of the image.

Slight blur and poor audio.

6/4/8

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neptunesblood
Aug 2005

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Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons

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Iammyself
Oct 2005


quote:
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Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


ummm.... WHAT? video is what distinguishes between cam and direct copy (TC)... do you realise what you even typed?

this looks poor as a tc from the 1st 5 minutes, some TS's are far superior

The audio is fine enough

as a TC (tele 'CINE')

6/8/?

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Jan 2003


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quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


Quoted for entertainment.

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wrist
Dec 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


That comment is as good as the Telecine video on this release from mVs.

Pic- rated as telecine 6ish - Seen way way better
Sound - 7ish - Not to bad in current climate. Bit of hum and a crackle and pop occasionally
Flik - 6ish - Not bad at all

Probably a Telesync.

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motaba
Sep 2007


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many mixed messages here,
I've burned to dvd using vso's convertx to blah blah blah
and on a little 28 - 32 inch TV with 2 channel sterio its absolutely fine both image and audio.

but, put it on anything bigger than a 42 inch plasma and yes does get blocky in the dark scenes with slight blur. Audio still desent.

either way if its for the kids then you wont waste your bandwidth but if your projecting on a wall to impress some japanese executives into buying your bootleg business, then forget it cause it wont impress.

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Bisky
Aug 2006


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quote:
Originally posted by neptunesblood
Please stop referring Telecine as having anythiong to do with VIDEO, its audio only....Morons


Huh? what the hell is that supposed to mean?

:MOD EDIT: ..he's confusing teleSYNC with teleCINE. Basically, he's a moron. -V

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silverhawk
May 2007

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to me this is a TC but not a good one

video slighty grainy & dark in places
audio hollow & crackley

V/7

A/7

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fireman911
Nov 2006


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V:7 because the crop, other wise a good tc, from russia shame to see again that mVs don't have own sources :P )
A:8 (good nice audio )
M: 8 seen the pukka ts, movie was good

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BillyBong
Jan 2005

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quote:
Originally posted by Bisky
Huh? what the hell is that supposed to mean?

:MOD EDIT: ..he's confusing teleSYNC with teleCINE. Basically, he's a moron. -V



Dear god the mod's comment put me in tears!!!

I converted to DVD using DVDSanta, looks decent on standalone

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Debby
Aug 2007


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A little oc, but not that noticable.
I got excellent results with Lanczos on ffdshow - filters most of the blur.

7.5/6/5 - I can't believe this thing scored 8.4 on imdb...

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shadowsniper
Jul 2007

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Just had another chance to look through this in a bit more depth...

Is that slight camera shaking towards the middle of the film? Particularly around the 49.20 mark. I could be wrong but it looks a bit wobbly to me. The Pixar splash screen at the beginning looks to be on a slight angle too?

The Russian text at the start of the short film at the beginning as well.... hmm.... could be a Russian TC job, i dunno, plus what definitely sounds like line audio. All the evidence seems to point to TS in my opinion.

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newdad23
May 2005

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Do you people even know what the dfference between a TC and TS are? I'm so sick and tired of people saying, "It's ether a really good TS or a bad TC" Please stop it! TS is direct audio with camera video quality. This is no cam. It's in russian so I'm betting on a crappy R5. But I'll will make my votes on a TC.


V- 8.5
A-7
M-10

Please read and find out about the difference before the ignorence kicks in

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