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Ekno
Apr 2006


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This is definitely the one to get.

Rated as R5
V-10
A-10
M-7

I didn't experience any sync issues, so far it looks like a flawless R5.

Dont compare this with DVD, HD, or 5.1 Audio, DTS etc, rate the audio as LiNE and the video as R5.

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cookiemaster
May 2006

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a much needed improvement.. thanks mvs for making a watchable release for us.


v: 9 (only mastered retail would be better)
a: 7 a little low on but pretty damn good for direct line and about 100x better then the other cam sources
m: looks pretty good will watch tomorrow

edit: haha why did some kid rate it 4/4.. some people have nothing better to do i guess.

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felt
Nov 2006

Newbie

V-8
A-7
M-6 (THE ENDING SUX)


100000x better than the other pre's

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Hansel
Apr 2005

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V:8
A:2
M:7

Great video, crappy audio (it may be Line, but it still sounds like crap), ok movie.

Get your act together MVS (not that it's ever actually ever been together, but you have to start at some point).

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Anno
Sep 2004

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Audio is still poor.
OK in quiet scenes with just low level voices but whenever there is noise (and this film has plenty) The distortion is terrible. Better than prior releases but sounds heavily filtered and IF it is line/direct it's from something like a crappy FM drive-in theatre, but then again, it is mvs so what do you expect. Their usual gumph.
It does seem to be synched ok tho.

V:8
A:4

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denmat
Sep 2007

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Audio is a lot better, not perfect but not as bad as some say it is. I downloaded and extracted the 1st rar of each release and this one is, the proverbial, miles better. I did not hear this bad distortion on the loud scenes though (could be speakers maybe)
After all it is a R5 line, You should not be expecting dvd quality dolby digital sound.
If in doubt convert to dvd and let the tele sort it out, sound always is much better there than on the computer.

Anyway
V=9 (very good, crisp and clear)
A=6.5-ish possibly 7 - Rated as Line (not the best line, but not all together that overly bad.
M=? (will watch this)

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Hansel
Apr 2005

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:MOD EDIT: ..links to samples/releases aren't allowed here. -V

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formatted
Oct 2007

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V-9
A-5
M-7

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jicjak
Sep 2006


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From scanning and now watching. Video fine. Audio much improved. No longer crappy cam but not exceptional line either. As someone already has noted the one to get.

9/7/?

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surge
May 2006

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The audio is better than the previous releases, but I still think that it could be better, even for a Line.

video is great - 9 for R5
audio - 5.5/6
m - ?

I can't really tell from the sample on that pinter-int one as to which one is better or not..i dunno

Edit: Aight, after watching the few first minutes of the mVs one, especially in the scenes with the crowd noise, I can definately confirm that the sample for the pinter-int one is way better.

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DaMoneyFan
Feb 2007


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quote:
Originally posted by denmat
Audio is a lot better, not perfect but not as bad as some say it is. I downloaded and extracted the 1st rar of each release and this one is, the proverbial, miles better. I did not hear this bad distortion on the loud scenes though (could be speakers maybe)
After all it is a R5 line, You should not be expecting dvd quality dolby digital sound.
If in doubt convert to dvd and let the tele sort it out, sound always is much better there than on the computer.

Anyway
V=9 (very good, crisp and clear)
A=6.5-ish possibly 7 - Rated as Line (not the best line, but not all together that overly bad.
M=? (will watch this)



WOW..Much better....is it me...or is the picture cleaner as well??

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Mar 2008

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Mailman
Jun 2006

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Good video, but then this has been the way for a few days. Finally somone has direct audio. It's flat, but it's direct so thanks guys.

V-9
A-7.5
M-8

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Hitcher
May 2005

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quote:
Originally posted by Mailman Sadly the DVD is now out, so you can get even better audio the same time.

What difference is it going to make on DVD if it's still the same 'line' audio?

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Ratbag
Mar 2006


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The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.
For these reasons:-
1: The audio starts in exactly the same place approx 4-5 secs in on the Columbia Logo.
2: If you listen carefully at 20mins 56 secs you will hear the whistle has been edited out (Quads voice is cut short).
3: The audio finishes halfway through the end credits same as Cam.
4:If you listen carefully the audio frequency is heavily filtered to try to get rid of the cam hollow sound (reverb).In fact so heavily filtered at 29:20,41:05,49:40 you can hardly here the chimes of the town clock.

By the way My Credentials. I've been an Audio/Visual Engineer for 40 years.

V = 8
A = 4
M = 8

In fact should be "Nuked" Cam Audio not line and Stolen Audio.

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Forsaken
Dec 2003

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yeah the audio is pretty poor in this

watched 10 min and had to stop cause it was so bad.

v - 9
a - 2
m -?

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Mailman
Jun 2006

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quote:
Originally posted by Ratbag
The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.
For these reasons:-
1: The audio starts in exactly the same place approx 4-5 secs in on the Columbia Logo.
2: If you listen carefully at 20mins 56 secs you will hear the whistle has been edited out (Quads voice is cut short).
3: The audio finishes halfway through the end credits same as Cam.
4:If you listen carefully the audio frequency is heavily filtered to try to get rid of the cam hollow sound (reverb).In fact so heavily filtered at 29:20,41:05,49:40 you can hardly here the chimes of the town clock.

By the way My Credentials. I've been an Audio/Visual Engineer for 40 years.

In fact should be "Nuked" Cam Audio not line and Stolen Audio.



Not here to argue regardless of who you claim to be. Everyone has ears and so if this is a total cam, it is the best filitered cam in the world. Come dude, you see releases all the time where cam audio is edited in to replace direct spots, watch Roscoe Jenkins. Where is starts isn't proof, it just means that is where they started the direct sound. It's direct with some cam added, you can nuke it if you like based on that. There is no way you can be honest and say the whole thing is cam. My credentials...I have ears and they work. Don't believe me, look at my recent Flight Physical. Nice comments though, I can't say I would spend the time to listen and marking spots though unless you really liked this release also.

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surge
May 2006

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quote:
Originally posted by Ratbag
The audio is not direct. It is the same cam audio as all the others.



I agree.
Reguardless of all the stuff you said, I have ears too...
And there is just something NOT right about the audio here...Or it could just be really crappy line? Either way, it could be better.

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shotaiken
Jan 2006

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It's CAM audio, but just enhanced, and for certain STOLEN from other releases.

But audible.

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