I burn my verbatim 2.4x dvd+r DL at 8x and I dont have any problems. BENQ DW1640 BSLB

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I have always had IMG Burn just calculate the Optimal Layer Break for me, and i have never had any problems with that method, but cant guarentee it will work for everyone.

It is a bit silly there is no MDS with it, considering the size, least they could do would be to let us know the where to split it, then we could enter that manually before burning it.

As said, ive had no problems letting IMG Burn set if for me, and it appears to be OK, but havn't watched it all the way through yet.



porco, i have stopped using DVD Decrypter now, and only use IMG Burn for burning stuff, nothing wrong with DVD Decrypter, but as that wont be updated any longer, i felt it would be better to switch.

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OK... So I got IMGBurn... When I select Optimal layer break I get...

Optimal L1 Data Zone Start LBA: None Found! (VTS_01)

This image has not been mastered correctly for burning onto a double later (OTP Track Path) disc.

None of the cells meet the "DVD-Video specification' criteria for a potential layer break position.



After that, I burn it, it DOES a layer break at 50%, verifies 100%, but won't play in a standalone. On the computer it is fine (purely because it is treated like a data disc and not a video disc).

Just in case mention, the above message I wrote out occurs when I select, Tools > ISO > Display IFO Layer Break Information

IF it fails there, the "optimal setting" will most likely not work (just like it didn't for me).

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What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.

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What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.

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Originally posted by Chappy
What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.

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Yep, that is correct. I was just hoping that there was an easier way. Still can't believe they didn't include the small little MDS to prevent ANY of this from happening.

Oh well, off to PGCEdit

:: EDIT - OK, I know this isn't going to take all day. Just saying easiest would have been to include the damn MDS, and hopefully they will in future releases. Having a perfect/proper layer break is always good for me... But I have a feeling it wasn't done because they eliminated the FBI warnings and other little annoyances. So I guess it balances out. ::

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i used my £1.65 datawrite 2.4x from scan.co.uk or there are 10x pcs of another brand that is printable for £13.50. £1.35 aint that much. aint bothered by 30min burn as it not very often i use a dual layer disc.

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i used my £1.65 datawrite 2.4x from scan.co.uk or there are 10x pcs of another brand that is printable for £13.50. £1.35 aint that much. aint bothered by 30min burn as it not very often i use a dual layer disc.

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I can burn it with the standard settings, and it plays fine on the DVD Player, X-Box wont play it though, so might have to go down the long route in future for DVD9 Releases without a mds file, which is about 90% of the DVD9's that i grab, as most are either plain ISO's or VTS folders.

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I can burn it with the standard settings, and it plays fine on the DVD Player, X-Box wont play it though, so might have to go down the long route in future for DVD9 Releases without a mds file, which is about 90% of the DVD9's that i grab, as most are either plain ISO's or VTS folders.

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Well, I got it working perfectly with a break at Chapter 33. Looks good and played on everything I put it in.

I guess (as mentioned) the MDS wasn't included since the IMG was changed to remove the FBI warnings and crap. Overall this release is perfect.

Is it me, or do the DVD-ROM layer breaks take longer than DVD+R DL breaks. I know the -ROM is purely for compatibility, but the +R DL breaks are instant (well, as fast as a retail disc that is) for me on my standalone. The -ROM burns take a good second and sometimes a hiccup (or odd sound).

The total process (mount, rip VOBs, PGCEdit, write IMG file and burn/verify at 2.4x was 1h50mins for me Is it worth it? WELL, still faster than re-encoding the damn thing )

The XPDVD release looks good BTW. So for those bandwidth savers and non-DL people, check it out. Looked good from the few RARs I got for fun. But the DVD-9 is better, but not as much as I hoped. Of course infinitely better than the BOCCA shite.

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What I did porco was mount the iso, rip the vobs, rebuilt the iso with PGCEdit, with (Options,Input/Output) "When saving leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP" checked and it set the layer break and it burned fine and played fine in my standalone.

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I did this process, but before burning, I used IMGBurn to see if the layer break is there (via porco556's method), and it said it isn't. I clearly selected to put it before Chapter 33. How can it be so?

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Hehe, well it is NOT my method But here is what I did...

You need to download PGCEdit, IMGBurn, ImgTool Classic. Install them all. And you'll need D-Tools (or a mounting program) to mount the image.

Copy the entire DVD to your HD.

Load up PGCEdit.

1 - Options > Input/Output > Burn Create ISO Setup - Here you will point to all the programs you need (IMGTool Classic and IMGBurn).

2 - File > Open DVD - You will be opening the HD copy of Kong (should be in a VIDEO_TS folder)

3 - Options > Input/Output > When Saving, leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP? Make sure it's selected...

4 - File > Burn DVD / Create ISO - Just go with the flow. Too tired to type. Not hard. You'll see it will calculate the optimal break between chapter 32 and 33. You can preview it, etc... It will make the IMG and then launch IMGBurn for you. It imports all the sector/layer break. Just burn from there.

This is as much detail as I have time for. I think it's pretty detailed. Here is a link also (haha, would save me lot of time... But you know, my instructions are easier ). Following a guide, you'll never learn. You need to fill in the blanks yourself

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgce...ith_pgcedit.htm

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Originally posted by porco556
Hehe, well it is NOT my method But here is what I did...

You need to download PGCEdit, IMGBurn, ImgTool Classic. Install them all. And you'll need D-Tools (or a mounting program) to mount the image.

Copy the entire DVD to your HD.

Load up PGCEdit.

1 - Options > Input/Output > Burn Create ISO Setup - Here you will point to all the programs you need (IMGTool Classic and IMGBurn).

2 - File > Open DVD - You will be opening the HD copy of Kong (should be in a VIDEO_TS folder)

3 - Options > Input/Output > When Saving, leave at least 32k of space between IFO and BUP? Make sure it's selected...

4 - File > Burn DVD / Create ISO - Just go with the flow. Too tired to type. Not hard. You'll see it will calculate the optimal break between chapter 32 and 33. You can preview it, etc... It will make the IMG and then launch IMGBurn for you. It imports all the sector/layer break. Just burn from there.

This is as much detail as I have time for. I think it's pretty detailed. Here is a link also (haha, would save me lot of time... But you know, my instructions are easier ). Following a guide, you'll never learn. You need to fill in the blanks yourself

http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgce...ith_pgcedit.htm

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is this the special edition?

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