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SeeDee_MKII
Mar 2004


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8.5 Video is very nice, Depends what you class as a TC nowadays. But whatever you call it, I wouldnt mind all rlses looking like this

9 Audio was nice and bassy. i noticed NO
sync issues, streaming thru xbox. I think that theres a few VCDQ lemmings posting again.

8 Movie wasnt what i expected, nice twist and well worth watching.

Nice job Pukka\sceptic, keeping scene alive

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andrews
Mar 2005

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quote:
Originally posted by Redemption1980
This might be a TC, might not be, no definite proof yet, but those faults are nothing to do with that

A TC will come out washed out if its a poor quality machine or its not been setup correctly.
Its 140mins cause its PAL which runs at 1fps faster, 152mins ends up being about 145ish mins, its also missing most of the credits, which more than likely accounts for the other 5 or so minutes.
The Sync issues are always gonna be a problem on TC's these days as the audio is always from a diff source and sometimes differnt versions, and also cause DTS discs cant be used these days.
And after watching 40mins worth and flicking through CD2, i can't find any signs of excess cropping, and wont know unless i see a retail DVD of it, to compare, and see if it wasnt filmed like that.


i've now watched the whole movie,there are missing minutes,in cd2 at about 50 mins when ray winstone shoots himself and gets blown up there is a jump in the movie, also i thought cd1 had some missing footage

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dodgy368
Jul 2005


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V 8 very watchable
A 8 there are sync issues but they ain't that bad
M 10 fracking brilliant!

TC or TS? If it's a TS then I wish they were all this good!


ps, the big black knob in the cinema scene is hilarious!!!

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cherzo
May 2003


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quote:
Originally posted by protekt0r
This is NOT a TC.

It's a mislabeled TS. It's cropped and has all the signs of a TS. Furthermore, the entire ending credits are not intact- another hallmark sign of a TS. Anyone who says it's a TC needs to go back and look at some of the recent Russian TC's like "The Covenant" or "You, Me, and Dupree."



actually those werent telecines either, those were russian dvdrips with cam audio put on them, crank was a tc tho imo,

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Ratbag
Mar 2006


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I dont care where the source comes from as long as it is good. The video source on this is good. The audio sync problems seem worse on CD 1 especially the fist 45 mins.

V = 8
A = 5 Would have been higher but for poor sync (Quality good)
M = 10 Great for action and violence

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nickrolando
Oct 2006

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does this audio needs to be send to a WAV file like Miami Vice did?

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wayne89
Mar 2006

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fucking wank stains if you moan at this go film it better yourselfs tosser

sorry for the bad language but ive had to many stella's tonight and up for a fight lol love all the pretty momen out there

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Brawk-123
Jul 2006

Newbie

so.. you were out drinking... and you left all those "ladies" to come on your pc? ok..

Anyway, had a quick skip through..

VIdeo - 7
Audio - 5 ( because of the sync issue's, audio itself is really great. )


Can't wait for the REPACK

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STB
Sep 2003

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Not completely sure its a TC..but it looks real nice...noticed a couple of times in the movie where it looks almost like the film shifted to the right then back..wierd..but overall very nice release

V - 8
A - 8
M - 8

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SOULJAM14H
Aug 2006

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cool release but sync issues and pixalation issues i can live with that thou so thanx im wathchin right now gud enough 4 me

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rmg
Jan 2006

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my first post looks good to me,but i know nothing

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pedantics
Sep 2004


Convicted Sex Offender

quote:
Originally posted by Skyclad
FPS stands for Frames per second. Hate to tear up your hypothesis, but it's complete bullocks.


if you knew anything about anything, you'd be aware that film runs at 24fps, pal video runs at 25fps... so in a pal telecine, the film is played one frame per second faster (so as not to introduce flicker). this doesn't create new frames.

the only hypothesis in this thread is yours.

p.s. this looks shit for a telecine - but there's no motion blur, so I'm not going to doubt it. I'm also not going to spoil this movie by watching all of this rls. 6/6/?

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Neversoft
May 2002


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Is this a good TC? Not really
Is this a TC? Probably not
Would this be a good TS? Yes
Is this release watchable? Yes

... In other words, shut the hell up arguing over semantics and just watch the fucker, you ladies give me a headache!

V - 6 (rated as a TC)
A - 8 (not noticed any sync issues in VLC)
M - Not watched it yet but it sounds pretty spankin'

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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quote:
Originally posted by Skyclad
FPS stands for Frames per second. Hate to tear up your hypothesis, but it's complete bullocks.

Took a better look at it, and must say I'm also beginning to doubt if it truely is a TC.
In case it really is a mislabled TS, the leet nfo is just plain stupid.



Its not hypothesis, its fact.

Since your not getting it, im will make it simpler to understand.

A 152min movie running at 24fps will have 218880 Frames of video.
You work that out by taking 24fps and mulitplying it by 60, to find out how many frames are in a minute, which is 1440, then multiply it by 152, which is the runtime of this Movie

So 25(framerate) x 60(seconds in a min) x145.92 (PAL runtime) = 218880

So around 146mins, chop off the credits, and then its none or very little of the movie missing.

Damn, i really shouldnt post drunk and full of Caffeine, that looks uber geeky.

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HiTmAn45
May 2006

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this ant that bad of a release but there is sync issues it's the same auido from maven supplier, i'm just guess too. V-7 A-6 M-10 i think it was a good flick.

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johnnycage
Jun 2004

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this is a tc

not the best, but blatanly a tc.

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gamer812
Apr 2005

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6/7/9

I didn't noticed any sync issues either. Video a bit washed out. Sound hollow like everybody said but decent. Great movie.

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Arthur Daily
Feb 2004



2 things i feel compelled to comment on.


quote:
Originally posted by vurtX
decent gangsta flick, scorsese knows his shit.


umm you know its a remake right? All scorsese did was direct a remake.
But ok, he did a good job credit where credit is due.



quote:
Originally posted by SeeDee_MKII
Depends what you class as a TC nowadays.


Your not a member of pukka by any chance are you? LOL
Its not a case of what you 'class' as a TC
A TC is a feckin TC and a TS is a feckin TS.

Please READ THIS

Lets say you asked for coffee, and got a cup of tea instead.
How would you describe (rate) that cup of coffee?


im not 100% on the setup of a TC machine
but checkout CD2, 0:31:49
It looks like a cam shift or re-frame
and again at 1:06:25

also a small bit is edited out at 0:31:37

i say its a cut as there's no cigarette burn like there are in the rest of this and its not a very clean one.


check it out for yourselves.

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Sccmj23
Sep 2005

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audio-8
video-9
movie-10

excellent flick, watched it at the theatre before grabbing this rls. thanks pukka

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petethemanc
Dec 2005


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Ive checked this all the way through and its looking less and less like a TC. As with septics release they look at best a TS. Why why misslabel?

A 5
V 5
M 10 imo the best film of the year so far.

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