steakknife03
Nov 2003
Senior Member
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Originally posted by Fionn McCool
Ultimate bet was the name of the site. Not trying to call you out or anything but I just can't understand how you would know that "every single one is crooked." I play on Full Tilt and I see absolutely no difference whatsoever between the beats on that site and live casino games. Usually the people that complain about internet poker being rigged are losing players.
UB and AP where the two that got caught out there's a 60 minutes show about it this Sunday. I got an email from UB recently letting me know I had been scammed and I got a refund.
Here's the email
As you may be aware, we have recently been engaged in an on-going investigation of allegations of unfair play at UltimateBet. The investigation determined that the cheating scheme was active and fully underway well before we purchased UltimateBet in October 2006. Furthermore, no one implicated in the cheating had ever been an employee of UltimateBet or of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, UltimateBet's current parent company. Consequently, we have been pursuing claims related to the cheating scandal against the previous owner of UltimateBet, Excapsa Software.
On November 3, 2008, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice approved a settlement of our claims against Excapsa Software. Under the terms of this settlement, Excapsa will pay Blast-Off Ltd., the Tokwiro-controlled company that originally acquired UltimateBet an amount of US$15 million. We intend to apply this settlement to the final round of refunds to customers who were victims of the cheating scheme. This favorable outcome before the courts validates our claims against UltimateBet's previous ownership with respect to the cheating scandal. We are very pleased with this outcome that benefits both our customers and our company.
Our investigation has concluded that your account XXXXXXX was victimized by the cheater. This account has been refunded for any losses against accounts associated with unfair play.
"Net loss" is the sum of the money that you lost to the accounts in question minus the sum of the money you won from them. On this basis, we have calculated that you are entitled to a refund in the amount of $XXXXX. If you have any questions about the refund process, please write to us at [email protected] or call (1.888.200.2933).
We want to express to you our sincere gratitude for your patience, loyalty, support, and your understanding that Tokwiro has acted, and continues to do everything it can to correct this situation. We also want to reiterate Tokwiro's and UltimateBet's commitment to providing a safe and secure environment for our players and our unwavering resolve to monitor our site security with every resource at our disposal.
Since the cheating was exposed in early 2008, we have worked tirelessly to understand what happened and how it happened; to ensure that it could never happen again; to refund our customers for their illegitimate losses at UltimateBet; and to pursue our claims against the former ownership that sold Tokwiro a business that exposed Tokwiro and our customers to illicit activity. With the November 3 Ontario Court decision in our favor, our claims against Excapsa are settled and our refunds to you and to all UltimateBet players who were affected by unfair play will be completed. This concludes our efforts for justice and compensation for Tokwiro and our customers affected by this cheating scandal.
Thank you for your understanding and support.
The UltimateBet Team
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11-24-2008 12:50 AM
