IRC_Moviefan
Feb 2005
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Originally posted by vip3r
Exactly! This is why i stopped posting here. Fucking kiddies thinking everything has to be 100% quality. If it wasn't for these groups, there would be NO SCENE. I mean shit, this is a dvdscr..and it just hit the theaters. Who fucking cares if it is TMD? I sure don't, i'll watch the release and enjoy it while you kiddies bitch on this forum...all i have to say
Alrighty , so its ok that RE-ENCODED movies can be scene released ?? Seriously who wants 10 Copies of the Exact same Movie ?? ... Just cause one group thinks they can encode better then the next . This is the exact same issue when there was the flood of silvers 4 months ago (TS's) , Exact same shitty quality movie just different formats and a shitload of propers cause the next grp *thinks* they can encode better.
I cant believe any of you are actually saying this is good , from what i seen this was overcropped , extremly blocky and pixelated. No Matter what you guys also says this had been passed down from the original XviD DVDScr at least 3 times. As we all know the XviD DVDScr had major encoding issues. So by re-encoding it more n more , the same screwed source , how is that improving it ? You cant make that AR better , cutting the subs off makes it the screen and the movie look lame , like the COBRA TELESYNC's they tried to cut off the subs. Only thing that could have been fixed better was the sound *IF* someone had DTS Disk audio , not some recorded audio , or of course , the actual DVD Sound. Each time the same source gets re-encoded the frames per second , among other things on the picture do get messed up.
Which brings me to a point, you guys keep praising these re-encode grps , now say TMD , SMR , LMD , whoever started *affil'n* sites and releasing re-encoded movies, is that alright??? ... i didnt think so , but yet you guys are praising their quality on this release and saying how much better it is. If you guys want re-encoded movies , theres public IRC channels and bittertorrent . The Scene isnt the place for it ... imo.
Also remember , if it wasnt for grps such as SAOSiN, TUN , Wastedtime, VideoCD , NOX , Corrolation ... groups such as TheEnd, iNVFX , WESTSiDE , etc wouldnt be around to have these released ... why ?? cause all they do is take real grps sources , re-encode it and either lie saying *** grp gave them permission , OR mislable it call it a TC, DVDScr whatever.
If i was in a *real* release grp , by real i mean actually got the original source , and released for fun but yet some kiddies kept taking my source , re-encoding it , mislabling it , propering you with your own source , etc (as whats happening in the scene right now), just so they can get leech on their rented sites. Id be on the verge of saying fuck it , and fuck the scene.
Which im sure also is gonna happen if re-encode grps keep flocking in like they are.
2 years ago if anyone even thought about taking another grps source and re-encoding and releasing it , not only were they flammed but got banned on mutiple places. Like i said , if you want to re-encode , IRC channels , BT is a great place to release ... sites arent.
I do agree though , that formats like XViD are becomming more and more feeasable , 3 years ago if someone said do you download DiVX movies , i prob woulda replied "i wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole" . Months ago i stopped touching VCD TV and only download HDTV XviD now. Since i got my phillips dvd player (xvid) , i dont touch SVCD anymore unless its the only format out of a movie i want to see. I agree a 1CD XviD TS from SAOSiN would be a lot nicer then a 2 or 3 CD SVCD. Mabey someday they will release an XviD format TS .
Now back to *Quality* .. lets use TUN's TC's as a perfect example:
The.Pacifier.TC.SVCD-TUN was released as we all know ..
The.Pacifier.TC.AC3.5.1.XViD-iNVFX a few days later.
iNVFX is nothing but a re-encode of the TUN SVCD. the AC3.5.1 track is mislabled and its still the same sound as the SVCD. Now cause this re-encode grp quickly downloaded the SVCD , re-encoded it to XviD , and released it. We still havent seen a copy from MoF (TUN's XviD grp), and im sure they said fuck it. You (the people who praised this re-encoded release) prob are saying who cares , its out. This is exactly the issue im getting at ... TUN has vob files from the TELECiNE and encodes it to SVCD , now MoF will also use those VOB Files to encode to XviD. What is iNVFX's source ?? Oh ya the SVCD ! As said on many occasions XviD is better quality then SVCD. So now we got an re-encoded XViD of the SVCD , and MoF with the original vobs is saying fuck it. (rather then propering this lame re-encode grp)
RE-Encoded TS's , TC's , DVDScr , etc are like the "DVDShrink" of XviD/DVDScr . We all perfer CCE encoded DVDR's as their nice copies of retail. DVDShrink on the other hand is nowhere near the same quality as CCE , although DVDShrink copies are good for home use , they shouldnt be scene released. Quality is moderate but not outstanding.
TheEnd's copy of this movie, i dont care what any of you say. Other then stripping the sound and replacing it with a DVD Source , or DTS disc audio , nothing gets "better" but only worse. Each time its passed down , re-encoded , etc , it gets butchered more. You loose frames , birate , etc.
Pretty soon unless these grps stop being gay and re-encoding real release grps movies, trying to proper them with their own source or releasing diff format so they can keep their leech wherever , im sure alot of real grps will say fuck it ...
.. and then where will your good copies of TheEnd be ? Oh ya they wont have a source ! 
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04-23-2005 09:09 AM
Where's the ending...........lol
