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X69
Aug 2001


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bluester
Jan 2005


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To DEiTY: Perhaps you guys should read the rules that you signed before releasing a pointless proper/dupe. The xvid releasing standards for 2005 specifically state that the MINIMUM runtime for a FILM source is 105 minutes per CD. Since you guys don't seem to understand what this means we will explain it to you. In order to use 2 CDs the runtime must be greater than 105 minutes. In the rare case that you think you might need 3 CDs the runtime must be greater than 210 minutes. Nowhere in the standards does it mention a maximum runtime per CD. While the rules may allow for the usage of 1 or 2 CDs we still feel that 1 CD is the appropriate choice for this movie. This movie doesn't contain alot of action and it compresses very well. If it had been an action movie or didn't compress very well we would have gone with 2 CDs. Please take this into consideration next time before
wasting everyones bandwidth ....




They're right of course

9/9/8 (although not needed since it's invalid proper)

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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They are right, but, but its strange to nuke a version which looks and sounds much better, and i pay no attention to half the rules as they tend to favour bandwith over quality.

If you have a decent TV and audio setup then this is the one to get, video is better and sound is much better, it might not have action, but it has a great soundtrack which is wasted on the Diamond release.

9/9/7

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PttU
Jan 2005

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If you favor quality over bandwidth, you should get the DVDR. XViD is a compression, so it's meant to save bandwidth and losing (a bit) in quality.

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Otaking
Jun 2004

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If you favor cd's over dvd's then xvid is for you

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flying_vortex
May 2005

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Rip Looks good

9/9/??

Although can someone tell me what everyone is on about the 1CD 100minutes thing and all this ? i Dont get it

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impaler
Jul 2005

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quote:
Originally posted by PttU
If you favor quality over bandwidth, you should get the DVDR. XViD is a compression, so it's meant to save bandwidth and losing (a bit) in quality.


well, hurray for ignorance.
DVDR is also compressed - it's called mpeg2. xvid (as a mpeg4 codec) has a much better compression ratio. now, if all dvdrs were full quality dvdr9 realeases, then i see your point.
but,
dvdr9 media is so insanely overpriced now, that no-one releases a dvdr9 image - and instead release a re-compressed mpeg2 video (that fits in one layer).
because you use the same codec, with half the bitrare, you get crappy results.
a 2 cd xvid/ac3 release looks better, sounds the same and take up 1/3 of the space.

hence, xvid releases are great.

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Redemption198
Jul 2004


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Not always true about the quality, it is mostly, but not always.

XviD is a superior compression format, compared to mpeg2, and most DVD5 copy's, so are compressed even further than a retail DVD, so its possible the XciD could look better, very rarely is though as most groups smooth everything off too much, and XviD still has a problem doing blacks properly.

Why the hell would someone favour CD's over DVD's, apart from when using music, mb for mb they are more expensive, and i peronally stopped buying then ages ago.

If you have decent Internet, and want the best quality video and sound, as this is Dolby EX 5.1 on this movie, then this is the best non-dvd release.

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kaph_een
Nov 2003

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aye...very nice release based off the first disc....

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tininho
Oct 2005

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AC3 sound is fine by me, no reason to flame this group.

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White Rabbit
Oct 2005


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Originally posted by flying_vortex
can someone tell me what everyone is on about the 1CD 100minutes thing and all this ? i Dont get it


scene rules state that if a movie is more than 105 minutes then the xvid should be made into 2CDS (app. 1.4GB) and if it's less than 105 minutes then the rip should be 1CD (app 700MB).

this movie is around the 115min mark i think so thats prolly what all the fuss is about

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the difference between compression and encoding is:

compression software works the same way as trying to get The 404, who is 350lbs, through a normal door. its method is to basically keep kicking The 404 until he gets thru the door. This works quickly, but leaves a nasty mess.

encoding software is the equivalent of The 404 going on a diet and walking thru the door. takes longer and sometimes more skill, but ultimately worth it.

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Da_Joker
Mar 2005

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Originally posted by mattmatt03
scene rules state that if a movie is more than 105 minutes then the xvid should be made into 2CDS (app. 1.4GB) and if it's less than 105 minutes then the rip should be 1CD (app 700MB).

this movie is around the 115min mark i think so thats prolly what all the fuss is about



you read it wrong also... there is no max... there is a min... meaning if you want to use 2 cds you need to have a film at least 105 min long...

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ta-88
Aug 2004


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Nice rip , i saw all 3 versions "FS-WS" and this is the best one .

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Carlitosbaby
Jun 2004

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quote:
Originally posted by mattmatt03
scene rules state that if a movie is more than 105 minutes then the xvid should be made into 2CDS (app. 1.4GB) and if it's less than 105 minutes then the rip should be 1CD (app 700MB).

this movie is around the 115min mark i think so thats prolly what all the fuss is about



seems like you read just like deity. You Can't lol. There is a minimum length to use 2 cds there is no maximum length for 1cd. Read rules again. If you still don't understand read them again. lol

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